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Pope Francis defends atheists
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RE: Pope Francis defends atheists
(May 26, 2013 at 9:25 pm)Ryantology Wrote:
(May 26, 2013 at 5:02 pm)Drich Wrote: I do not disagree with your assessment IF you completely ignore Satan's stated motive for rebellion. He wanted to be God. He wanted God's power and authority for himself. He has no issue with the power structure itself, just who is at the top of it. He wants creation to bend to His will, and not to have to yield to the will of God... So yeah if you take all of that away and look only at what Satan is doing and not why, I can see a bit of a David and Goliath going on here.

But when you factor in motive, that would be like trying to over throw what you perceive to be an oppressive government to install a more oppressive government.

That's what your super-biased source claims is his stated reason. How do I know it's not unfair scapegoating? After all, Satan's crimes in the Bible never amount to more than "he didn't do what God wanted" while it is God screaming for the blood of infants in order to sate his jealousy.
...but your buddy satan has never done this?

(May 26, 2013 at 11:24 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:
(May 26, 2013 at 8:13 pm)Drich Wrote: Are atheist not "the lost?"

I don't feel lost. So, no.
then there is nothing more to discuss. God in the bible identifies you(all who would deny the existence of God) as lost, but you have rejected this identification, then you will not acknowledge what has been done for you as outlined in John 3. Effectively ending the discussion.
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Pope Francis defends atheists - by CleanShavenJesus - May 23, 2013 at 6:01 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 23, 2013 at 9:38 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 23, 2013 at 10:18 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Little Rik - May 26, 2013 at 5:53 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Gooders1002 - May 23, 2013 at 10:28 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 12:02 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 12:07 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 12:20 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 12:35 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 12:43 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 2:07 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 1, 2013 at 2:54 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - June 2, 2013 at 1:38 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Jackalope - June 2, 2013 at 1:46 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 2, 2013 at 9:21 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 24, 2013 at 4:17 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by ThomM - June 3, 2013 at 1:22 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 24, 2013 at 12:12 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Whateverist - May 24, 2013 at 1:03 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 11:00 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 24, 2013 at 1:17 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 24, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Whateverist - May 25, 2013 at 12:10 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 25, 2013 at 12:23 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Cato - May 25, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 26, 2013 at 1:47 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 26, 2013 at 4:43 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Anomalocaris - May 24, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - May 24, 2013 at 12:09 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Raven - May 24, 2013 at 9:01 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Gearbreak - May 24, 2013 at 11:12 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by SoTiny - May 24, 2013 at 11:22 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Cato - May 24, 2013 at 11:10 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - May 24, 2013 at 11:56 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 24, 2013 at 11:17 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Cato - May 25, 2013 at 12:26 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by KichigaiNeko - May 24, 2013 at 12:01 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - May 25, 2013 at 12:22 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 25, 2013 at 12:28 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by KichigaiNeko - May 25, 2013 at 12:41 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Cato - May 25, 2013 at 12:51 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by KichigaiNeko - May 25, 2013 at 1:05 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Cato - May 25, 2013 at 1:29 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by KichigaiNeko - May 25, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 25, 2013 at 1:53 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Whateverist - May 25, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 26, 2013 at 3:08 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 26, 2013 at 5:02 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 26, 2013 at 9:25 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 27, 2013 at 9:58 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Ryantology - May 28, 2013 at 3:00 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 28, 2013 at 12:19 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 26, 2013 at 5:16 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 26, 2013 at 8:13 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 26, 2013 at 11:24 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Anomalocaris - May 27, 2013 at 1:54 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Whateverist - May 27, 2013 at 2:03 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - May 26, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Gabriel Syme - May 27, 2013 at 10:37 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by pocaracas - May 27, 2013 at 10:55 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - May 27, 2013 at 10:59 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Gabriel Syme - May 27, 2013 at 11:10 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Esquilax - May 27, 2013 at 11:20 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - May 27, 2013 at 11:36 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Gabriel Syme - May 31, 2013 at 10:05 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 27, 2013 at 10:26 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 27, 2013 at 11:00 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 27, 2013 at 11:08 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 28, 2013 at 12:17 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by downbeatplumb - May 28, 2013 at 11:29 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 28, 2013 at 12:47 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - May 28, 2013 at 11:24 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by KichigaiNeko - May 28, 2013 at 1:45 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - May 28, 2013 at 2:27 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by rexbeccarox - May 31, 2013 at 1:00 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - June 1, 2013 at 4:59 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 1, 2013 at 7:20 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Drich - June 2, 2013 at 12:57 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - June 2, 2013 at 9:36 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 2, 2013 at 9:57 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by The Grand Nudger - June 2, 2013 at 10:00 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - June 2, 2013 at 11:36 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 3, 2013 at 10:24 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by The Grand Nudger - June 3, 2013 at 10:32 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Minimalist - June 3, 2013 at 10:46 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 4, 2013 at 10:29 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by pocaracas - June 5, 2013 at 4:46 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by pocaracas - June 4, 2013 at 5:09 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by The Grand Nudger - June 5, 2013 at 12:24 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 6, 2013 at 10:20 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by pocaracas - June 7, 2013 at 6:54 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Zen Badger - June 8, 2013 at 5:36 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 7, 2013 at 10:40 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by pocaracas - June 8, 2013 at 5:29 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by Esquilax - June 8, 2013 at 7:15 am
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by BettyG - June 9, 2013 at 10:36 pm
RE: Pope Francis defends atheists - by KichigaiNeko - June 9, 2013 at 11:30 pm

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