(May 31, 2013 at 8:44 am)Rationalman Wrote: If you guys remember from my last post, i'm currently debating with a Catholic. He sent me a very long quote from the bible which i will paste down below. Can anyone make sense of the point he is trying to make? I told him I would only answer him if he actually answered any of my questions (which he has completely ignored by the way) Such questions as:I like questions, let me take a stab at them!
Quote:What made you believe in God?I followed what the bible said do for proof of God, and God showed up.
Quote: Why don't you believe in any other of the religions?Because I've looked into other religions and found them empty.
Quote: Why don't you believe in unicorns and fairies ect?No proof.
Quote: But that isn't the point so don't bother answering these questions. Just focus on the message he sent me:I dont agree with his statement here as I believe nothing in the creation account dismisses evolution and nothing in the evolution account outright dismisses creation.
evolution is a farce & you would be of the many to believe nothing came from nothing.
Quote:here's a challenge.
the bible says that only a person filled with the Holy Sprit could discern the bible. read below & lets see if an intellect of the evolutionary persuasion could understand.
i guarantee you cant understand it. & i mean truly understand it.
Quote:God doesn't lie, read below & see if you can prove Him wrong that only a person filled with the Holy Sprit could discern the bible.One can understand it if someone filled with the spirit explains it. That is the reason God appoints teachers, and the reason for easier to read versions of the bible.
Here is your passage in Romans 1:18 God shows his anger from heaven against all the evil and wrong things that people do. Their evil lives hide the truth they have. 19 This makes God angry because they have been shown what he is like. Yes, God has made it clear to them.
20 There are things about God that people cannot see—his eternal power and all that makes him God. But since the beginning of the world, those things have been easy for people to understand. They are made clear in what God has made. So people have no excuse for the evil they do.
21 People knew God, but they did not honor him as God, and they did not thank him. Their ideas were all useless. There was not one good thought left in their foolish minds. 22 They said they were wise, but they became fools. 23 Instead of honoring the divine greatness of God, who lives forever, they traded it for the worship of idols—things made to look like humans, who get sick and die, or like birds, animals, and snakes.
24 People wanted only to do evil. So God left them and let them go their sinful way. And so they became completely immoral and used their bodies in shameful ways with each other. 25 They traded the truth of God for a lie. They bowed down and worshiped the things God made instead of worshiping the God who made those things. He is the one who should be praised forever. Amen.
26 Because people did those things, God left them and let them do the shameful things they wanted to do. Women stopped having natural sex with men and started having sex with other women. 27 In the same way, men stopped having natural sex with women and began wanting each other all the time. Men did shameful things with other men, and in their bodies they received the punishment for those wrongs.
28 People did not think it was important to have a true knowledge of God. So God left them and allowed them to have their own worthless thinking. And so they do what they should not do. 29 They are filled with every kind of sin, evil, greed, and hatred. They are full of jealousy, murder, fighting, lying, and thinking the worst things about each other. They gossip 30 and say evil things about each other. They hate God. They are rude, proud, and brag about themselves. They invent ways of doing evil. They don’t obey their parents, 31 they are foolish, they don’t keep their promises, and they show no kindness or mercy to others. 32 They know God’s law says that anyone who lives like that should die. But they not only continue to do these things themselves, but they also encourage others who do them.
If you need this even further explained I can break it down further.
