(June 2, 2013 at 5:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I don't see any evidence of jesus having done anything - but more importantly, how this could even be achieved is left a mystery. I'll keep my own actions and their consequences - the good and the bad, thank you. This whole sin business is less than wrong - it's meaningless. No magic? So I guess magic is off the table now as a mechanism for this whole taking up of "sins" as well.God voluntarily took on the penalty for sin as Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ wasn't killed by God the Father, the people he was saving from death killed him, and unknowingly caused the events that brought them their own salvation.
It's clear that we're working from a vastly different idea of what the word justice means. I'd call the non-event you're describing an act of depravity and injustice. Punishing one for the sins of another? Withholding consequence n one by the virtue of the actions of another? That doesn't fly here, in our system of justice. Why would I hold a god to a lesser standard than I hold men?
Quote:A murderer being truly sorry does not expatiate the consequences of his actions. He serves a sentence. "Not guilty" is what gets you off the hook, not "really, really sorry".My point exactly. In the same way, God couldn't let the sin just dissipate into the air. It had to be done away with, and someone had to pay for it.
God provided the bail for the people who had offended him.
