RE: "I considered myself atheist, but I still talked to god"
June 4, 2013 at 12:00 am
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2013 at 12:07 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 3, 2013 at 11:53 pm)ReasonableRuben Wrote: ..and you have done a marvelous job of pointing out the obvious. Namely, that I have done a marvelous job at inventing a narrative. A narrative, mind you, in which there is no logical contradiction, and in which also the person in question at one point in time genuinely disbelieves in the existence of God but still prays,(and takes this to mean "talking to God" in a colloquial sense) thereby showing that it is possible for a person to disbelieve in the existence of God, and still talk to Him, which is my "contention."B-mine So, yes, your contention did hinge upon the narrative you invented. Would have been easy to just say yes, wouldn't it? An atheist speaking to a god is about the clearest contradiction one can imagine. A person praying to a god they don;t believe in is equally as mystifying - but people do strange shit all the time, granted. You're stretching these ideas beyond the point of breaking, in my opinion, btw.
Quote:I guess it isn't that obvious, so I'll explain: Terr, in his OP, is referring to a theist who claims to have converted from theism, to atheism, and then back to theism. Hence the "stop then start," as you put it. Hope that helps.Where, all I see is someone who claimed to be an atheist before finding god or some such. You assume the person deconverted, sure, I don't (like I said, cool story, bro). I think that a person who makes that sort of statement is just an asshole with a taste for bullshit. We get a few of em round these parts now and again. It's not obvious, Rueben, because it isn't in the claim - you've invested that claim with a claim of your own (more than one).
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