Salvation Army: Gay parents deserve to be put to death

[Ben Davis]

"we hate gay people" is a sensationalist version of "homosexuality is considered a sin".

...and although their not quite equivalent statements, defining homosexuality as a sin is an overt mandate for discrimination. You make my point for me.

Personally I have no problem with them holding unpopular views. If they feel that this is justified, and they break no law and even treat anyone less than commendably, which is all I see them saying above, then I can't disagree with that.

The popularity of their view is irrelevant; it's unethical to discriminate against someone on the grounds of sexuality. I don't care if they think they can justify it, they're wrong and even if they break no law, their promotion of discrimination is also unethical. I can't disagree with them more.

Believe me if I had some beef with them I wouldn't hold back. I find your criticisms here hollow.

That speaks more to a skewing of your values than it does the efficacy of my criticisms. That's clearly the result of viewing homosexuality as a sin. Once again, you make my point for me.

God "mandates", or more accurately humanity mandates spiritual death upon itself. We understand that to be human nature. You can disagree with that, and I'd be interested to hear your opinion, but either way that doesn't put God in the wrong.

I do disagree. Humanity does not mandate spiritual death upon itself: in theory, god is the one making all the rules therefore he holds all the responsibility & accountability. If you're not familiar with the 'mafia boss' analogy, I suggest you look it up. Not only does that make god wrong but it makes him immoral.

I can't see how you think :

"We pledge to continue to offer services to all Australians and to treat each person with dignity, respect and non-discrimination."
=
"support, overtly, of a position that causes discrimination against homosexuals."

Come on be fair

I don't think that. I think:

"no human being is without sin, all sin leads to spiritual death"
=
'homosexuality is a sin, all sins lead to spiritual death'
=
"support, overtly, of a position that causes discrimination against homosexuals."

I also think "We pledge to continue to offer services to all Australians and to treat each person with dignity, respect and non-discrimination." is directly contradicted by the SA's position on homosexuality and only exists because some basic, human decency has been forced upon their doctrine. We have centuries of human rights development to thank for that, not a biblical view of what's 'right or decent'.

That's what's fair.