(December 20, 2009 at 10:38 am)solarwave Wrote:Quite frankly, yes I would require real evidence on big claims. As real as we can get.(December 19, 2009 at 8:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: So, IOW, you have "belief" and not "evidence."
Don't feel bad. None of the rest of you have any evidence, either.
No repeatable laboratory evidence no. If that is what you require?
solarwave Wrote:Somethings are too important to be limited to that extent and must be understood with all our experiences not much repeatable ones.Of course not, somethings are too important to leave people guessing for it. Mysticism is a way to veil things, not to reveil things. There is no reason why a god you allegedly can have a personal relation with, should make a puzzle out of it, if these truths are that important.
solarwave Wrote:Explain to me how someone a few thousand years ago was ment to know God before science? I believe the answer is that God is a person and so is known personally not by data.Supposing that there was a god, in that time the best possible evidence were miracles and apparitions and they are all over the bible. Those people could see all of that with their own eyes! Sadly for us they are all written accounts and have to compete with many other magical stuff from other religions. Only in this time we are told to believe on basis of even less evidence than those miracles in ancient times. Isn't it strange that we should believe on basis of less evidence than in ancient times? A possible explanation of this is of course that ancient people were more perceptible to make belief than modern man nowadays (at least some of us).
"I'm like a rabbit suddenly trapped, in the blinding headlights of vacuous crap" - Tim Minchin in "Storm"
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0
Christianity is perfect bullshit, christians are not - Purple Rabbit, honouring CS Lewis
Faith is illogical - fr0d0