(June 12, 2013 at 3:58 am)ThomM Wrote: Maybe 50 or 60 years from now when science finally proves that all of you are right and there is no God..... and religion dies out for you!
Where as a society will the moral compass come from? Considering of course you even want a moral society?
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THE idea that being moral in order to gain a reward - is NOT being moral to begin with. Being moral - is doing something simply because it is the correct thing to do
If you need to be bribed to be moral - you are not actually being moral - and that is the basis of religion - so WHERE does YOUR moral compass come from
Obviously - it can come form the existing moral compass that xtianity stole from prior religions - since the basis for the moral compass of xtianity is another religion - Judaism.
THERE is NOTHING that is in xtianity that did not exist BEFORE xtianity - from the golden rule - which is in the Rig Veda - to the moral rules of Buddha and Confucius - which cover far more than xtiaity to begin with
Being intelligent creatures - the elimination of the dominance of a particular religion would allow us to read the writing oF all religions - and put together a truly moral society based on the one thing that xtians cannot claim - that things are done for the correct reason - because they are the correct thing to do
I see you've never studied the NT, Jesus taught we are to be moral to benefit others.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.