(June 12, 2013 at 1:43 pm)Undeceived Wrote: So we're supposed to leave out Jesus altogether because he claimed to be something more than a philosopher? Would you exclude Augustus Caesar? He claimed to be a god, too.
Augustus Caesar's claims to divinity are just as valid as Jesus' claims. Neither can, as far as I am aware, be verified or tested. Perhaps it is Caesar who sits on a throne in heaven, royally pissed at humanity for worshipping some hippie preacher who didn't even lift.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
