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Ok.....So you killed off Religion...
RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion...
(June 13, 2013 at 1:20 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(June 13, 2013 at 12:36 am)Undeceived Wrote: What does worship have to do with omitting religion from schools? People worship Jesus, so therefore his words should be omitted from curriculum? Could you explain the logic, please? If you wouldn't mind, provide the step-by-step argument. How do you get from "this subject is worshiped" to "therefore, this subject should not be taught"?

It's not so much to do with worship as it does the fact that the guy can't be factually verified, and that even if you could, there's no way to verify his divinity, the same as any other supposedly divine religious figure. There's a reason you guys still have to use faith, right?

I've used this analogy before, but think of the education system like an ice cream parlor. Everyone who walks in ends up with ice cream, that's the basic education, and it serves everyone equally; only demonstrable facts, things that every student needs to know and will benefit from. Your religious instruction is the topping, and that's optional; it's still there, you can do it, but it's not forced upon you. It's made to order, and that way every student can get the appropriate religious instruction, rather than wasting time on one religion in class you might not follow. Would you really want to have to scrape the sprinkles off your ice cream cone because you wanted chocolate sauce instead? Why wouldn't the server just give you the basic ice cream and let you pick your own additional extras, instead of making assumptions you've later got to correct

What do you mean by "verified," and why should I accept its application here? Your answer will necessarily presume a worldview/philosophy. Philosophy isn't factually verified, yet it is required to answer questions about knowledge and metaphysics before humankind can even begin judging what is verified. So one's worldview is the cone, not the sprinkles. Why not lay out a wide selection of cones first, before the ice cream? Otherwise, we are educated before the reason for education comes to light.
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Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by ronedee - June 9, 2013 at 10:07 pm
RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Angrboda - June 9, 2013 at 10:22 pm
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by ronedee - June 9, 2013 at 11:57 pm
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by ronedee - June 9, 2013 at 11:39 pm
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by ronedee - June 10, 2013 at 12:57 am
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Undeceived - June 12, 2013 at 12:36 am
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by ronedee - June 12, 2013 at 2:58 pm
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by ronedee - June 13, 2013 at 11:47 am
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Undeceived - June 13, 2013 at 12:36 am
RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Esquilax - June 13, 2013 at 1:20 am
RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Undeceived - June 13, 2013 at 2:30 am
RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Cato - June 13, 2013 at 4:58 am
RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Esquilax - June 13, 2013 at 5:07 am
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RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by Esquilax - June 13, 2013 at 12:40 pm
RE: Ok.....So you killed off Religion... - by ronedee - June 13, 2013 at 10:58 pm
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