DP Wrote:What amazes me is the sheer arrogance of Christians like John V, Frodo, Ronedee and others. They first try to ridicule and dismiss my post on secular morality calling me stupid or ignorant. One must expect that their views on morality must be so advanced, so nuanced, so well thought out as to justify such derision and off-hand dismissal. When I finally pry a non-ad-hominem reply out of John V, here is the jewel in the crown of his religious-based morality (have a seat and get ready):
I don't think Fr0d0 deserves to be included with the likes of ronedee. Even putting JohnV in there is stretching it, although I do agree with you that he's arrogant. Mainly I think there's a difference between arrogance and assurance. Frodo is merely assured in his beliefs, but I don't see arrogance displayed.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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