(June 14, 2013 at 2:25 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(June 14, 2013 at 2:21 pm)ronedee Wrote: You need proof. But to get your proof you need to actually believe first.
Believing, having faith, is not proof. Faith, after all, is the veritable lack of evidence.
I forget now who first said that the sceptic says "I'll believe it when I see it", while the credulous says "I'll see it when I believe it".
I think it might have been me.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'