Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 3, 2025, 3:04 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Faith, what is it?
#27
RE: Faith, what is it?
(December 20, 2009 at 11:01 am)Purple Rabbit Wrote: Quite frankly, yes I would require real evidence on big claims. As real as we can get.

The point I'm trying to make is that you should believe what seems reasonable to you and not hold out for absolute evidence for it.

Quote:
solarwave Wrote:Somethings are too important to be limited to that extent and must be understood with all our experiences not much repeatable ones.
Of course not, somethings are too important to leave people guessing for it. Mysticism is a way to veil things, not to reveil things. There is no reason why a god you allegedly can have a personal relation with, should make a puzzle out of it, if these truths are that important.

So you know for a fact that if God were real He would have no reason to be as veiled as He is?

Quote:
solarwave Wrote:Explain to me how someone a few thousand years ago was ment to know God before science? I believe the answer is that God is a person and so is known personally not by data.
Supposing that there was a god, in that time the best possible evidence were miracles and apparitions and they are all over the bible. Those people could see all of that with their own eyes! Sadly for us they are all written accounts and have to compete with many other magical stuff from other religions. Only in this time we are told to believe on basis of even less evidence than those miracles in ancient times. Isn't it strange that we should believe on basis of less evidence than in ancient times? A possible explanation of this is of course that ancient people were more perceptible to make belief than modern man nowadays (at least some of us).

So you would say then for those people then miracles were a reasonable reason to believe in God? I would also like to point out that the Old Testament is over hundreds of years, so there arn't all that many miracles for individual people. I think back then and now the reason people follow God is because they have had some kind of revelation of Him or for Christianity they know God.

I disagree that there are no miracles nowadays, in fact there are many healings nowadays, and I don't mean by 'amazing big time healers' but from the prayers of normal people who have faith in God. Its happened many a time to people in my church and by heals I mean instant ones (few seconds).

(December 20, 2009 at 12:09 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Somethings are too important to be limited to that extent


First, I don't agree that your superstitions are all that important and Second, if they were (for the sake of argument) THAT important then they should not be limited to the imagined rantings of believers.

What should not be limited to believers rants?
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."

Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
Reply



Messages In This Thread
Faith, what is it? - by Bungy - October 28, 2008 at 6:40 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by bozo - October 28, 2008 at 3:59 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by ManofGOD - October 28, 2008 at 4:37 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by bozo - October 28, 2008 at 4:44 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 5:06 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by tackattack - December 17, 2009 at 2:17 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Darwinian - October 28, 2008 at 4:42 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by ManofGOD - October 28, 2008 at 6:07 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Edwardo Piet - October 28, 2008 at 6:32 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Bungy - October 29, 2008 at 6:14 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Edwardo Piet - October 29, 2008 at 8:02 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by chatpilot - December 17, 2009 at 1:34 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by littlegrimlin1 - December 17, 2009 at 6:49 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by chatpilot - December 18, 2009 at 12:50 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by tackattack - December 20, 2009 at 1:11 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by theVOID - December 20, 2009 at 1:31 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by tackattack - December 20, 2009 at 4:55 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by LEDO - December 19, 2009 at 12:02 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Minimalist - December 19, 2009 at 12:15 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by solarwave - December 19, 2009 at 5:29 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Minimalist - December 19, 2009 at 6:50 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by solarwave - December 19, 2009 at 7:48 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Minimalist - December 19, 2009 at 8:26 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by solarwave - December 20, 2009 at 10:38 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Purple Rabbit - December 20, 2009 at 11:01 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Minimalist - December 20, 2009 at 12:09 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by solarwave - December 21, 2009 at 12:12 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Purple Rabbit - December 21, 2009 at 1:43 pm
RE: Faith, what is it? - by solarwave - December 24, 2009 at 11:54 am
RE: Faith, what is it? - by Purple Rabbit - December 24, 2009 at 1:20 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Unity Through Faith? Leonardo17 23 1270 July 1, 2025 at 10:19 am
Last Post: arewethereyet
  At what point does faith become insanity? Fake Messiah 64 8347 May 8, 2023 at 10:37 pm
Last Post: The Architect Of Fate
  The soft toys parents hope connect kids to their faith zebo-the-fat 13 2365 October 31, 2021 at 3:50 am
Last Post: Paleophyte
  Baha'i faith Figbash 5 1487 April 13, 2020 at 12:31 pm
Last Post: onlinebiker
  [Serious] Comfort in Faith at Death Shell B 142 19194 August 4, 2019 at 11:30 am
Last Post: Catholic_Lady
  Atheist who is having a crisis of faith emilsein 204 25267 April 29, 2019 at 6:41 pm
Last Post: Losty
  Faith industry Graufreud 8 1419 August 8, 2018 at 6:54 am
Last Post: Gawdzilla Sama
  My faith is on hold. Mystic 16 5469 May 3, 2018 at 9:40 am
Last Post: Neo-Scholastic
  Do Christians have faith in oxygen/air? MellisaClarke 83 18732 January 3, 2018 at 6:28 am
Last Post: ignoramus
  What makes your faith true? Fake Messiah 237 47203 November 12, 2017 at 3:27 am
Last Post: Odoital77



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)