RE: Four questions for Christians
June 24, 2013 at 8:51 am
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2013 at 8:56 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 24, 2013 at 2:23 am)Consilius Wrote: Gladly.God and lollipops. Irrelevant now for the same reason that it was irrelevant before. It doesn't matter what you imagine the egyptians to have done to the isrealis, this is an inadequate defense of the actions or justifications of your "god". As far as what you feel might be adequate compensation for such an immoral and illogical act, why would anyone want to associate themselves with such a creature as you've described? What joy could there be in the presence of such a horrid thing?
The Egyptians, unlike the Israelites, didn't die violently, and then went on to infinite joy. The thing about heaven is that it surpasses every other want or desire (as Christians believe).
So, potential problems of being dead are:
Pain in death, which was nonexistent.
Missing your parents, which infinite joy blots out.
Not getting to be a lawyer or a doctor or a pharaoh, which infinite joy blots out.
So, which one of these ambitions is so special, or which sorrow is so deep, that God couldn't possibly compensate for with spending eternity in his prescence.
Quote:You can't calculate the equivalent of having lost a child. But, say you could, by observing pain sensors in the brain or something. A governmental law that says that identity theives should have their toes cut off just sounds unfair.Seems like two trains of thought might have just hit head-on there, am I missing something? In any case, I agree - mutilation probably doesn;t have a place in our system of justice.
Quote:This has already been explained to you. It's still inadequate, for the same reason as before. Whether or not the egyptians felt they were "punished fairly" is irrelevant, and you would have no idea how they might have felt in any case.
By reciprocating the actions of the Egyptians according to Egyptian law, it was impossible for the Egyptians to even imagine that they had been punished unfairly. God wanted them to know that they had been judged for what they did, and had not simply had slaves stolen from them or been attacked by a demon.
To add a bit to your response above (to Nora) about atheists not "stepping up to the plate" with regards to god and evil. I don;t see why it would be required. You've done fantastically in that regard, or hadn't you realized? I've been chatting with you for what, two pages now...trying to suggest that your god is not as evil as -you- have described.
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