RE: Four questions for Christians
June 28, 2013 at 12:47 am
(This post was last modified: June 28, 2013 at 1:09 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(June 27, 2013 at 6:46 pm)Consilius Wrote: For all I know, the Exodus could have never happened.You could get a much better idea of this narrative's historical accuracy than "for all I know", if you wished to. Simply discarding it is probably the simplest way of dealing with any problem it's inclusion might cause for some other claim, though.
Quote: But this is a story forms part of a narrative of the same Christian God and what he does with mankind.-That- is the troubling part, if we wish to excuse the narrative for what it is. It's foundational, -if not the god that delivered his people from bondage - then which god again?
Quote: As for its historical validity, that is irrelevant to whether or not the same loving God in the Bible works in the Exodus.I think that you aren't giving the narrative a fair shake. For the christ you wish to be the fulfillment of prophecy the god of exodus must be invoked. They must be the same god, loving or not (and lets be clear, a loving being can do atrocious or incoherent things, love isn't any hedge against this if we are to use ourselves as any example). We could, very easily given the narrative, say that "god" -in exodus- did something inexplicable and altogether shitty - but that in some other (later, for example) part of the narrative "god" did explicable, not-so-shitty things.
Quote:Is my explanation illogical? Apparently, you see it, and I don't. Are you going to justify your belief with evidence or are going to keep saying that its true?I'm sorry, I thought that you had finally come to an understanding here? It's not an issue of belief (mine or anyone else's). Your defense is not sound because
A: It is not valid
and
B: You have not demonstrated that the premise is true
It is not valid because it is entirely comprised of a logical fallacy (which you then attempted to drive ad naus....double whammy).
If your defense is not sound or valid, it is -by definition- illogical. My evidence for this is your argument, and the criteria that must be met to have formed a coherent or logical argument- which have not been met......
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