RE: One question for Christians
July 1, 2013 at 5:03 pm
(This post was last modified: July 1, 2013 at 5:04 pm by Godscreated.)
(July 1, 2013 at 3:28 pm)Godschild Wrote: I agree, however when someone continually runs down what is being said without evidence shows ignorance, and ignorance breeds one's unwillingness to learn.
Esq Wrote:Well, you know, as the hallowed saying goes: that which is asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. If you want us to start supplying evidence (though we already do, but hey) then you'll need to provide some to support your initial claims. The irony here runs deep.
You have never supplied any scriptural evidence period, so I assume the same applies to you. So on the other hand I do provide scriptural proof and you need to do the same to dismiss what I say.
GC Wrote:I submit to you that you can not recognize sensible statements, so stop ridiculing until you can.
Esq Wrote:Sensible statements about magical men in the sky, and genocide that isn't genocide, stuff like that?
I have never made a statement about a magical man and I've given evidence through scripture that what you call genocide is in reality justice. You do not even understand what genocide is.
GC Wrote:When you can show me that you can breed a dog to be something other than a dog I'll believe in evolution. No one has ever demonstrated that one species can become another, like atheist say only seeing is believing. no atheist can bring proof there's none.
Esq Wrote:Oh man, I swear; ever since coming here I end up posting the same few links every few weeks. It's like you guys never learn.
I submit that you find some links that have viable evidence and dump the trash you have been posting.
Esq Wrote:First of all, a little biology lesson; evolution would not permit a dog becoming something other than a dog. The nonexistence of this isn't an argument against evolution; if we did see a dog breeding something other than a dog, that would break evolutionary theory entirely. You're ass-backwards from the first objection.
So then I'm assuming from what you said that a species can not produce another species, so how does evolution magically come up with other species.
Esq Wrote:Now, what does evolution actually propose? Well, a gradual change; dogs becoming slightly different dogs due to genetic diversity, generation by generation, until eventually... a new species. Incidentally, you probably could have done better than picking dogs, because dogs are selectively bred, evolved wolves. And different dog breeds? That's proof of evolution. That's legit all evolution proposes.
You know this is what I referred to above, you're just being dishonest with such answers as above. A wolf is a dog, what did you think a wolf was a donkey. That proves nothing the wolf is still a dog and can breed with other dogs meaning same species. Your explanation is preposterous.
Esq Wrote:Meanwhile: Here's a list of creatures transitioning from one species to another. Here's some silver foxes that have been selectively bred into a new kind of fox. Here's an explanation of ring species, a live action example of the genetic drift that prompts evolution. And here is a list of the evolutionary process in observable, demonstrable action.
Now, see how I provided evidence there? The same evidence you accused us all of not providing in your post? And notice how you didn't extend the same courtesy with regards to your objections to evolution, even to the extent that you don't even know what evolution is?
Really puts it into perspective, doesn't it?
You've not proven or demonstrated anything, you have a bunch of fossils and no living species. You do not even have a complete fossil they are extremely rare, so everything else is filled in from presupposed ideas of scientists you've never meet and their work has been approved by scientist that practice the same thing. Evolution has be redefined so many times how could anyone know what is meant by the word evolution. It changes every time the need arises to evade and hide the truth, simple really. There is currently, nor has there ever been one species changing into another. When Christian scientist and other scientist challenged evolution and evolutionary scientist could not defend their position, we saw micro evolution and macro evolution pop up. To this day not one single bit of evidence has been shown to support macro evolution and micro evolution has not been shown to produce a single new species, except for those who believe that a domesticated dog and wolf are two separate species.
(July 1, 2013 at 4:13 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote:(July 1, 2013 at 4:02 pm)Godschild Wrote: What do you call faith... oh, that's right you define faith as proof.hock:
Where does he do that?
All of you do every day, that's how you think.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.