RE: Four questions for Christians
July 2, 2013 at 11:33 am
(This post was last modified: July 2, 2013 at 11:58 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 2, 2013 at 1:31 am)Consilius Wrote: It depends on your attitude towards death. From a theistic viewpoint, God kills people every day. I believe that deaths serve a purpose to the living.No..it does not. Culpability for ones own actions does not depend on ones attitude towards their consequences. Again, no matter how many lollipops are given out, or how necessary it is that people die to make lollipops, they are still dead. It does not matter if we wish to consider killing a crime. We can say that both parties in the story involved just went around offing folks and it's completely amoral - we'll still be left with two parties running around offing folks (that's less than satisfying, isn't it , and it doesn't leave much room for one to babble on about the goodness and moral authority of their favorite spirit). You're flirting with an ends and means now....and that;s not going to go over any better. Regardless of what purpose we might imagine the act to have served, -the act itself- will either stand or fall on it's own. We could say, for example, that a shitty thing was done in service to a noble goal (I'd disagree, but it wouldn't matter...and it's equally as unsatisfying as the last example if you want to go from there to the goodness or moral authority of said favorite spirit).
There is an aspect of death that makes killing itself a crime. It is…?
The reason that this particular argument does not work does not hinge upon either of our opinions or attitudes towards death. It doesn't work because it forms a statement who's conclusion cannot be garaunteed to be accurate -even if- the assertions are true (even if they are sound). That's what it means for something to be logically invalid. It is a categorical, and all-encompassing failure to form a coherent position. No amount of shuffling around, adding, or subtracting ancillary assertions will change the fallacious nature of the argument. Understand? No matter what you imagine for the particulars of the situation, so long as you appeal to hypocrisy -it does not work-.
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