One question for Christians

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If you intend to argue against what scripture depicts, then you'll need to use scripture whether you believe in it or not, there is no other sources to go to unless you've been holding out on the world.

Oh no, there's one other source, though I'm not surprised you're unfamiliar with it.

It's called reality.

Which is not something you're familiar with. You seem to be quite irritated I don't know why you're being treated the same as you treat Christians and you just laugh at what you try to do to them.

Seems you're reading other post than mine, I've given plenty of scriptural support for my argument. I do agree though God's divine plan rules the day every day all day long.

And then you've reinterpreted the words of the scripture so they agree with what you want them to say, without providing any evidence that yours is the correct interpretation.

Dude, I'm already familiar with theist operating procedure, you don't need to explain it!

I've provided plenty of scriptural evidence, you're not able to see it because you want to be blind to the truth, that is a pitiful thing, you know less about the scriptures than most here.

Words from a big man, in the eyes of who?

Everyone who sees me, I'm quite tall.

Now you're coming down to size.

I understand how evolution is suppose to work, thing is there is no truly reliable indication it ever has, there is no proof that it ever has happened. Yes I know there are changes within species, changes so they can adapt to their environment, not to become another specie. I've seen that in just four generations and I can assure you my great nephews are very much human beings.

Okay, I'm not going to be kind here, because now you're being fucking ignorant. It's become clear that you don't understand evolution at all, despite your assertions to the contrary. The thing is, your inability to understand simple concepts, and your preference for arguing against strawmen, does not mean that you're right. It's means you're ignorant.

You're hardly ever kind why would I expect you to change. I understand that the theory has never shown us a transitional form of any kind, oh I know people have opinions on fossils, but they are just that opinion, no evidence, no proof. You show me a specie in change, I need to see it to believe it, not some magical unseen force that makes one specie another.

Go and do some research. Look at what evolution actually is. What it actually means. Not what you think it means, but what scientists do. Then come back and argue like a rational adult.

I have with some very intelligent professors and scientist, I've spent time looking into evolution and find it impossible. Just because you can be fooled by those who want anything to be true just so they can dismiss God... well it ain't my fault.

See, this is what staggers me about evolution deniers like you: it's so very clear that you haven't done a single moment of study on the topic you think you're qualified enough to deny by fiat, to the point where you don't even know what it is, and yet you arrogantly strut around declaring that it doesn't exist. How can you possibly think you can deny this stuff, when you aren't even familiar with the basics? It could be one hundred percent correct or one hundred percent wrong, and right now you still have no rational basis for declaring it to be either.

Why you are describing your actions toward scripture and God.

You know you're not doing well when you could be absolutely right and still be an irrational bag of dicks.

At least I have enough confidence in what I say and believe that I do not have to revert to the practice in ignorance of name calling.

Okay I'll agree wolves are of the canine specie, just as the domesticated dogs are a canine. Humans and apes are genetically similar, last I heard man and apes can't make mapes.

No, and nobody is asserting that they could, not even evolutionary biologists. Because man and ape are separate species, that happen to share a common ancestor. The "man don't come from no monkey!" canard is an old stalwart of the ill informed and the liar alike. I wonder which you are?

You were by giving your assumptions that things like that are possible. You may be an ape man, however I have a creator in the living God, loved enough to bring me into this world and offer to me salvation. Sorry you god of evolution can only offer you death, what a sad way to live.

Only an idiot would believe they are anything other than canines, they all can interbreed and still only canines come out of the breeding, canine is a species period. There is no proof what you purpose is true, I nor the many people I know have ever seen this.

What I propose? Have you even paid attention to what I've proposed? Go back and look; I think you'll find that all along I've been saying that evolution never states that one animal would suddenly give birth to a different animal, but that the changes would be gradual and cumulative. The fact is, you agree with what evolution actually says, which is that all of those canine breeds are genetically similar yet still diverse, you're just... well, kind of dumb about this subject.

You purpose a bunch of worthless junk, all the money spent to tell lies when it could have been used to help the needy, at least the church doesn't through good money into dirt holes, we us some of our money to help the needy.
Canine is a species and you can not change that, the wolf, fox, wild dogs and domesticated dogs all belong to it. Some may be small, some may be large, fur of different lengths and color, different eye colors, yet they are all canines. They will always be canines and they show no evidence they will ever be anything else, if this is dumb, then what does it make you.

What I also like is that you're so bad at arguing evolution that you can't even argue against the arguments I, and the theory, are making. Only your own fallacious strawmen.

You are not making arguments, how is it that you can make an argument about such fairy tales, that use some magical action to poof new species from other species. There is no argument against a fairy tale, nor is there an argument for such.

Have you had some kind of seizure?

Or do you actually think that three emoticons invalidates the actual proof I gave you a few pages back? Because it's still there, for anyone to see. Do you think that they'll read that, then come here and see what passes for a rebuttal from you, and then think you've come out ahead?

I nearly did laughing at your assertions, you have presented no proof, you post biased material, you can't even defend it with your own words.

I do not have to lie about things that are unproven, there are no living organisms alive today that have evolved from another specie.

All living creatures evolved from another species. Your ignorance of the actual science at work here is not an argument, just another monument for your inability and unwillingness to learn anything that doesn't have a cross on the front of it.

I learn a lot about many things that are not religious, I've learned from professors and scientist about the lie of evolution, I do not need you biased opinions on the matter.

You will not read the Bible passages that are relevant to the discussion and you dismiss it without ever considering it valid to the argument. So you are not one to point fingers.

There is no such thing as a relevant bible passage in a discussion of factual matters.

You have never offered proof against any passages I've quoted. You want this whole thing to be your side.

They are not evolved from a completely different specie. There is no proof of evolution. Except maybe in your deluded mind.

Seriously, go and study. This stuff is incredibly fascinating. Here, I'll even get you started.

Seriously you think I would be fascinated by your fairy tale of delusion.

Yep, keep changeing things because of the challenges from Christian and non Christian scientist.

Or, alternately, keep changing things to reflect additional information. Incidentally, would you mind linking to mainstream, peer reviewed papers from christian scientists that confirm these challenges to evolution? Or can't you, because those things don't exist?

Now you are saying you do not know that which you claimed to know, how do you expect to learn if you are not willing to look at the counters against your belief. At least the Christians here take on the challenge of from our critics.

Also, did you even look up the term macroevolution before you felt educated enough to post about it? Because I did; that's why I actually knew what I was talking about, and you did not.

I learned about macro a long time ago by people that are very well educated and know more about the theory than you will ever know.

Micro is nothing more than adaptation within a specie, the specie never changes. Macro has no proof whatsoever, only those who want to imagine some magic force has come along to make one specie from another.

Please, do look up what evolution actually entails. I know you won't admit you were wrong here, but I do hope you'll at least squirm a little in embarrassment right there in your chair before you continue your dishonest tirade.

I want squirm over a lie, I do not admit to being wrong when I know you are the one who is wrong. Frankly I'm over this, you have no proof, the science you rely on is biased and you're gullible enough to belie[/quote]ve it.