(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: What absurdities, the things you deem that way, why should your opinion dictate what is absurd in scriptures, does my opinion hold less value than your's?.
Texas Wrote:Precisely. Since you offer your opinion to others, it is us, "the others", opinion of what is absurd that you can expect to continue to hear. Your opinion is exactly that, and is no more valuable than mine or anyone else's! (When did I say otherwise?). However, until you strengthen your opinion with a logical argument, it will remain an opinion that sounds absurd to people with a certain standard for truth. Do you understand now?
I have opinions about scriptures, most of what I state is truth through scripture, if you can not disprove what I say then all you have is opinion.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Texas Wrote:Shame on you GC. You can't honestly expect me to accept that! Who is this "Science" you are referring to? Do you have a good reason to provide from your own data bank of knowledge? How do YOU know that? How do you know that the Sun, being omnipotent, couldn't suspend its powers for a determined amount of time so that it can remain close to us, giving us life, and watching over us? I'm asking you. Don't hide behind answers you don't have or fail to understand.
Surely you're not serious, an atheist who doesn't know that science has determined the sun will burn out in the future, scientist have discovered that other suns through observation die, right. So I say again the sun can not be omnipotent it will burn out.
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(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: The scriptures never try and prove God, so how can you say you can see that the Bible tries to.
Texas Wrote:Is that what you read? I don't see it. Perhaps its easier to respond to the comments of your choosing, rather than my actual thoughts. Proceed...
Prove me wrong.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Just because you reject the Bible that's suppose to make it false, a bit uppity on your part wouldn't you say.
Texas Wrote:Again, I don't see where I said that, but I would be happy to clarify for you. I don't believe lots of things. I never said they were false. The bible is among a list of many things of which I don't view as credible sources of information. Are you confusing my words with someone else's? It may be beneficial for you to make sure you are responding to things I actually say.
So do you reject the Bible in whole or in part, and why?
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Try this for truth God promised to restore the nation of Israel where it once stood when Rome destroyed it. The nation of Israel is the only nation restored to it's original place after 2000 yrs. no other nation has come back after that amount of time, this is Biblical prophecy. Just a bit of truth from scripture..
Texas Wrote:Cum hoc ergo propter hoc...You may want to research how this little fallacy can be deceitful to the untrained mind.
Stumped are you, there's no fallacy, prophecy fulfilled.
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(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Who are you to demand an answer from me, frankly I couldn't care less if you never responded to any of my post, your uppityness is showing up again.
Texas Wrote:Oh, I do apologize. You must not be aware that when you publically solicit your beliefs, you will sometimes be expected to be able to support them. It is not uncommon to ask for good reasons before accepting a claim as true.
Asking for an answer or evidence is what I would expect, you however made a demand, as you can see I do not care for that.
Texas Wrote:In fact, in some circles, it's a requirement and an expected requirement. Some even show proof while presenting their ideas in order to avoid confusion or pesky requests for such a thing. I can see how it can appear to be rude to you, if you are not akin to such formalities and are clearly not familiar with my weird standard for truth.
I've seen no such requirements on this forum and some atheist here avoid answering questions period. If you have questions ask them but do not demand them if you want an answer.
Texas Wrote:You, of course, do not have to have good reasons to believe anything. But, for future reference, if you are going to solicit your beliefs and ideas around here, you will need to back them up to avoid the sort of ridicule you continue to endure. You have a belief, this belief cannot be proven true or false, because of this, you have no good argument or evidence for it. Because of this, certain people with a particular standard for truth think your claims sound absurd. This combined with the former leaves you with the type of discourse you find to be unpleasant. I hope you understand.
What I understand there's rude and there's polite, if you think rude will get you somewhere with me keep it up.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Texas Wrote:I'm sorry, but when did we start talking about evolution? You are right about the bible being a book for Christians and their God, you are mistaken however when you think that non-Christians will be at all interested in anything your book says though.
Really, I've meet non-christians who find interest in the Bible, my brother for one.
Texas Wrote:You can, of course, defend anything you want that's written in the bible, your error comes in when you expect others to read it before recognizing their right to reject it.
Most atheist that bring up evolution tell me I can not reject without studying it, so are they in error also, or are you fine with that.
Texas Wrote:If you wish to defend the bible, that's fine, but I don't need to read a single sentence of it before I can decide it's not worthy of my attention. If you think otherwise, feel free to convince me, but you won't convince me with circular logic. That's all i'm trying to tell you.
If you want to reject scripture or any other writing is your choice, but if you reject it out of ignorance we can not ever have a discussion on the truth of scriptures.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.