One question for Christians

[The Reality Salesman01]

I have opinions about scriptures, most of what I state is truth through scripture, if you can not disprove what I say then all you have is opinion.

Hmm...Wrong again. I can see this logic-thing is giving you trouble. You seem to think that you can say whatever you want, claim that it is true, and then claim victory if others cannot disprove it. I'm sorry to tell you that this theory is fraught with logical flaws.

Surely you're not serious, an atheist who doesn't know that science has determined the sun will burn out in the future, scientist have discovered that other suns through observation die, right. So I say again the sun can not be omnipotent it will burn out.

Because you say it twice, it must be true. At any rate, if the Sun "burns-out", how does this in anyway discredit my claim? What if The Sun decided it necessary for reasons unknown to us? I'm sorry, but you haven't disproved The Sun's omnipotence my trying to convince me it will burn out. For all we know, it's part of The Sun's plan to do so. Try again.

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That seems quite unreasonable. We reject your Bible as a circular support for your God. If you think that there is merit to your God or your Bible you must establish truth in one or the other before you can expect anyone else to acknowledge them as credible sources of truth.

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The scriptures never try and prove God, so how can you say you can see that the Bible tries to.

Is that what you read? I don't see it. Perhaps its easier to respond to the comments of your choosing, rather than my actual thoughts. Proceed...

Prove me wrong.

If you would have re-read the above text, you'd see you did that by copying them. Where did I say the bible tries to prove God? Saying that you think The Bible supports God, is not at all the same as saying it tries to prove it. Are you saying The Bible doesn't support your God now? Do I need to quote you again? Pay attention kiddo.

Just because you reject the Bible that's suppose to make it false, a bit uppity on your part wouldn't you say.

So do you reject the Bible in whole or in part, and why?

This is the best part! I can give you any reason I want and it's valid. I don't like the bible because I despise all books that have the letter "B" in their title. If you care to make a more convincing reason to accept the bible, it is on you to do so. Are you keeping up?

Try this for truth God promised to restore the nation of Israel where it once stood when Rome destroyed it. The nation of Israel is the only nation restored to it's original place after 2000 yrs. no other nation has come back after that amount of time, this is Biblical prophecy. Just a bit of truth from scripture..

Cum hoc ergo propter hoc...You may want to research how this little fallacy can be deceitful to the untrained mind.

Stumped are you, there's no fallacy, prophecy fulfilled.

I can see you are going to need more tutelage than I thought. Ok, I will entertain you.

The fallacy you failed to understand or even google for that matter is actually quite simple. You assume that because an event occurs in succession after another, that they are linked causally.

A) The Bible makes a claim
B)The claim comes into fruition
C) The Bible predicted it

You leave no room for either coincidence or for the operation of an outside factor which separately influences the event.

Suppose you and I were on a train, and we were both about to eat a banana. We go through a tunnel just as I take a bite of mine, everything goes dark. In the darkness, I yell to you..."Don't eat your banana, you'll go blind!". Do you understand? C doesn't always follow in every instance, your claim is of zero relevance to me.

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My question to you is quite simple:
How do you know that anything the bible says about things not yet proved by science, are true?

I'm asking you a direct question. Before you can expect me to open your book and even read a sentence of it, you will need to provide a good answer to this question with a solid logical foundation.

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Asking for an answer or evidence is what I would expect, you however made a demand, as you can see I do not care for that.

My deepest apologies.

I've seen no such requirements on this forum and some atheist here avoid answering questions period. If you have questions ask them but do not demand them if you want an answer.

I'm pretty sure i've already asked, but apparently, I was too demanding. Let me try again...

How do you know anything you claim to know about God is true?

Really, I've meet non-christians who find interest in the Bible, my brother for one.

Yes, and I've met vegetarians that eat animal crackers. What's your point?

Most atheist that bring up evolution tell me I can not reject without studying it, so are they in error also, or are you fine with that.

If what you say is true, Yes. They too are in error. I don't care at all about what you study before rejecting. Evolution is not a fact, no matter how likely some may think it is. One should not pretend to KNOW something they cannot show to be TRUE.

If you want to reject scripture or any other writing is your choice, but if you reject it out of ignorance we can not ever have a discussion on the truth of scriptures.

You can't call me ignorant and hope that gives credibility to your opinion of the scriptures. I've never eaten fecies either, I tell you I don't believe it's a good idea, you can't come back as and tell me that because i've never tried it, I can't know if my prejudice is correct. You'll need to use logic. You've read it, I haven't. Tell me why I should. If you think they're so valuable, it must be easy. Why does it appear to be so difficult for you?