(July 8, 2013 at 12:47 am)Godschild Wrote: I have opinions about scriptures, most of what I state is truth through scripture, if you can not disprove what I say then all you have is opinion.
Tex Wrote:Hmm...Wrong again. I can see this logic-thing is giving you trouble. You seem to think that you can say whatever you want, claim that it is true, and then claim victory if others cannot disprove it. I'm sorry to tell you that this theory is fraught with logical flaws.
You sure are good at declaring people wrong, to bad your incorrect in your opinion. I have no problem with logic, just with those who believe they are the only ones who have it. You can not disprove what I bring from scripture because you're afraid of the word of God, you understand the power it has, that's why you avoid it and act this way.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Surely you're not serious, an atheist who doesn't know that science has determined the sun will burn out in the future, scientist have discovered that other suns through observation die, right. So I say again the sun can not be omnipotent it will burn out.
Tex Wrote:Because you say it twice, it must be true. At any rate, if the Sun "burns-out", how does this in anyway discredit my claim? What if The Sun decided it necessary for reasons unknown to us? I'm sorry, but you haven't disproved The Sun's omnipotence my trying to convince me it will burn out. For all we know, it's part of The Sun's plan to do so. Try again.
I said it twice because you're hard of hearing. An omnipotent power can not get rid of itself, that would be contrary to it's omnipotent power. You having trouble with omnipotence are you.
Texas Wrote:
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Texas Wrote:
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Prove me wrong.
Tex Wrote:Where did I say the bible tries to prove God? Saying that you think The Bible supports God, is not at all the same as saying it tries to prove it. Are you saying The Bible doesn't support your God now? Do I need to quote you again? Pay attention kiddo.
I didn't, I said it. The scriptures deal with a real God whether you want them to or not. Supporting who God is and giving proof of God are two totally different things. I can support someones works without trying to prove they exist.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: So do you reject the Bible in whole or in part, and why?
Tex Wrote:This is the best part! I can give you any reason I want and it's valid. I don't like the bible because I despise all books that have the letter "B" in their title. If you care to make a more convincing reason to accept the bible, it is on you to do so. Are you keeping up?
Good intelligent answer never thought you would get there, keep up the good work.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Try this for truth God promised to restore the nation of Israel where it once stood when Rome destroyed it. The nation of Israel is the only nation restored to it's original place after 2000 yrs. no other nation has come back after that amount of time, this is Biblical prophecy. Just a bit of truth from scripture..
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Stumped are you, there's no fallacy, prophecy fulfilled.
I can see you are going to need more tutelage than I thought. Ok, I will entertain you.
Tex Wrote:The fallacy you failed to understand or even google for that matter is actually quite simple. You assume that because an event occurs in succession after another, that they are linked causally.
A) The Bible makes a claim
B)The claim comes into fruition
C) The Bible predicted it
You leave no room for either coincidence or for the operation of an outside factor which separately influences the event.
You believe google has all the answers, good you are making this easy.
You and other atheist that believe in evolution are the kings of believing in succession being causality. Tell me sir, do you know of another prophecy of that magnitude that came to fruition after 2500 years, can you? That would surly eliminate coincidence if you can't.
There was an outside force that influenced the event, GOD. Even if it had been another outside force, which it wasn't, the prophecy was still fulfilled, omniscience of God took care of that.
Tex Wrote:Suppose you and I were on a train, and we were both about to eat a banana. We go through a tunnel just as I take a bite of mine, everything goes dark. In the darkness, I yell to you..."Don't eat your banana, you'll go blind!". Do you understand? C doesn't always follow in every instance, your claim is of zero relevance to me.
Your stupid suppose event has no meaning to me, it's just plain stupid.
Texas Wrote:
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote:
Tex Wrote:
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've seen no such requirements on this forum and some atheist here avoid answering questions period. If you have questions ask them but do not demand them if you want an answer.
Tex Wrote:I'm pretty sure i've already asked, but apparently, I was too demanding. Let me try again...
How do you know anything you claim to know about God is true?
Simple really, God through experiences has proven Himself to me, the experiences I have line up with the scriptures so I have my proof of God. There is no other way to find God's truth, anyone who tries to find truth outside of scripture are fooling themselves.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Really, I've meet non-christians who find interest in the Bible, my brother for one.
Tex Wrote:Yes, and I've met vegetarians that eat animal crackers. What's your point?
My points simple, you said non-christians, have no interest in the Bible, I pointed out that's just not true. Vegetarians do eat products of animals, vegan would been the choice example.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Most atheist that bring up evolution tell me I can not reject without studying it, so are they in error also, or are you fine with that.
Tex Wrote:If what you say is true, Yes. They too are in error. I don't care at all about what you study before rejecting. Evolution is not a fact, no matter how likely some may think it is. One should not pretend to KNOW something they cannot show to be TRUE.
Well almost all the atheist on this site say evolution is factual, even though they've never proven it. I on the other hand have never claimed I can prove God and I certainly did not come here to do something I knew I couldn't, so why do people keep insisting that's why I'm here.
(July 4, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: If you want to reject scripture or any other writing is your choice, but if you reject it out of ignorance we can not ever have a discussion on the truth of scriptures.
Tex Wrote:You can't call me ignorant and hope that gives credibility to your opinion of the scriptures. I've never eaten fecies either, I tell you I don't believe it's a good idea, you can't come back as and tell me that because i've never tried it, I can't know if my prejudice is correct. You'll need to use logic. You've read it, I haven't. Tell me why I should. If you think they're so valuable, it must be easy. Why does it appear to be so difficult for you?
Calling you ignorant of the scriptures wasn't to show my credibility, it was to show you are not able to discuss scripture or reject it with credibility.
I believe you should read the scriptures to find God's truth through Christ, then they will be open to you so you can see who God really is. Did you expect a different answer?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.