RE: What is "FAITH"
July 8, 2013 at 6:28 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2013 at 6:30 pm by Bad Wolf.)
(July 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: I understand why a closed minded person like yourself would believe you can not make simple choices, that in your mind absolves you of sin. For me however I can make choices and do daily, I feel sorry for a person who lives life without hope, hope you see comes from choice.Now you are just lying. At no point did I say you cannot make choices. I said, you cannot choose what you believe
(July 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: I've heard atheist say the same thing, excuse me for not believing them. If you believe life just leads you around by the nose then why try, run and hide before it brings bad things your way, cower behind the boulders with your head between your knees. Don't look up life may be hanging over your head with something bad you can not refuse, good luck with that idea of life.Oh how convenient. Athiests just lie about how they feel and what they believe. They don't really mean any of it do they? This is getting pathetic
(July 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: So believing is not a choice, children are taught about Christ and Christian parents know their children have to make their own choice if they are to be saved. Most children grow out of Santa Clause before they become Christians, they know how to rationalize, sorry but you just do not get it.
Make their own choice? Are you kidding me? Christianity is all they have ever known, its how they rationalize the world. Its not a choice because they aren't given an accurate representation of alternate theories. Children believe their parents, there is no choice there. Its indoctrination.
I don't see the relevance of chlidren growing out of Santa Clause but I would be interested in seeing the research you obviously have looked up on this topic. You do realise you can rationalise something wrong don't you?
(July 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: Responsible Christian parents allow their children to decide when the Holy Spirit calls, which by the way only the person being called knows it, so the parents have to trust their children on this matter. True answer.
When the Holy Spirit calls? Thats an already biased viewpoint pushing them into Christianity. If parents really left it up to the children, they would allow them to make their own decision based on a accurate representation of the opposing views of religion. No theist I have ever talked to has had this accurate representation. They don't understand evolution and a lot of the time don't understand science in general. Their idea of what counts as evidence is also terrible. How can religious parents represent both sides equally when they don't understand the other side.
(July 8, 2013 at 4:19 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:(July 8, 2013 at 3:40 pm)Godschild Wrote: @ Esqulax, you believe what you wish, you've been presented the Gospel of Christ, what you do with it is your choice and yours alone, consider carefully your eternity is not reversible.
I'm tired of your childish ways, responding to you i like talking to a post, I'm doing as Jesus said, dusting off my feet and leaving you with yourself.
What proof do you have outside of the Bible that his eternity is not reversible?
BTW, if you won't talk to him, then talk to me. Give me your proof. Remember that if your proof is faith-based, then it's not proof, because that is, by definition, a belief in the unknown.
Oh no, don't bother asking for proof. He will just insult you, call you childish and refuse to answer. I wonder why he is refusing to present his proof, unless there isn't any?
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
“Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom
"If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
