What is "FAITH"

[Godscreated]

I understand why a closed minded person like yourself would believe you can not make simple choices, that in your mind absolves you of sin. For me however I can make choices and do daily, I feel sorry for a person who lives life without hope, hope you see comes from choice.

Now you are just lying. At no point did I say you cannot make choices. I said, you cannot choose what you believe

Choosing what I believe I have done, just because you can't doesn't mean I'm incapable of choice of what I believe. In what crazy mind does it make sense that one can make choices yet can not choose what to believe, man that's insane IMO. I see no difference in choosing to go on a trip and choosing what one believes.

I've heard atheist say the same thing, excuse me for not believing them. If you believe life just leads you around by the nose then why try, run and hide before it brings bad things your way, cower behind the boulders with your head between your knees. Don't look up life may be hanging over your head with something bad you can not refuse, good luck with that idea of life.

Oh how convenient. Athiests just lie about how they feel and what they believe. They don't really mean any of it do they? This is getting pathetic

I did not say atheist lie about there feelings or what they believe, I did say you're idea of no choice is pathetic and why go on if you believe what you do.

So believing is not a choice, children are taught about Christ and Christian parents know their children have to make their own choice if they are to be saved. Most children grow out of Santa Clause before they become Christians, they know how to rationalize, sorry but you just do not get it.

Make their own choice? Are you kidding me? Christianity is all they have ever known, its how they rationalize the world. Its not a choice because they aren't given an accurate representation of alternate theories. Children believe their parents, there is no choice there. Its indoctrination.

Then evolution is indoctrination, it's all kids are taught, they have no alternate theories, children believe what the teachers say they are taught that the teachers know best. Want to reconsider your answer?

I don't see the relevance of chlidren growing out of Santa Clause but I would be interested in seeing the research you obviously have looked up on this topic. You do realise you can rationalise something wrong don't you?

I realize most children dump Santa before they become Christians, they understand the difference of a fairy tale and the God they have chosen, God is real, they choose Him at an older age, an age after Santa is long gone. You rationalize it your way I'll hang with reality myself.

Responsible Christian parents allow their children to decide when the Holy Spirit calls, which by the way only the person being called knows it, so the parents have to trust their children on this matter. True answer.

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When the Holy Spirit calls? Thats an already biased viewpoint pushing them into Christianity. If parents really left it up to the children, they would allow them to make their own decision based on a accurate representation of the opposing views of religion. No theist I have ever talked to has had this accurate representation. They don't understand evolution and a lot of the time don't understand science in general. Their idea of what counts as evidence is also terrible. How can religious parents represent both sides equally when they don't understand the other side.

If teachers were responsible they would give children an opposing view of evolution, then they would be allowed to choose what they want to study. No Christian children I've spoken to or taught for that matter has been given that opportunity, only biased science biased toward evolution which has no real proof. Sure you don't want to change your statement.

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What proof do you have outside of the Bible that his eternity is not reversible?

BTW, if you won't talk to him, then talk to me. Give me your proof. Remember that if your proof is faith-based, then it's not proof, because that is, by definition, a belief in the unknown.

Oh no, don't bother asking for proof. He will just insult you, call you childish and refuse to answer. I wonder why he is refusing to present his proof, unless there isn't any?

Those who act like children I call childish, you're acting like a child.