(July 10, 2013 at 12:35 pm)Consilius Wrote: Punishment for disobedience is simply invoking discipline, like a schoolteacher. Those who don't take correction do not want to be part of the system, and are expelled from it. The naughty kid is expelled from school, and loses everything that came from the schoolteacher that he refused to obey. You respect someone who you owe money, or else his money will be taken back. If you owe God your life and you refuse to respect him, then you refuse to be with him. Your life is taken from you and you a granted an eternity without him, that being hell.
And you think a god that does that, gives the death penalty for disrespecting him and creates a place of eternal torment, is love?
(July 10, 2013 at 12:35 pm)Consilius Wrote: I did not say God's existence was dependent on us.
Good, because I never said you did.
(July 10, 2013 at 12:35 pm)Consilius Wrote: I said that God fulfilled his personal objective by making us to love.
No, you didn't. You said god gave his existence purpose by creating us.
But let's go with this anyway. Why would a god have a personal objective and the desire to fulfill it?