One question for Christians

[Dionysius]

Do you take the same approach to gravity? The reason I ask this is because it seems your issue is with authority in general, God is is just incidental.

"Fuck you, you sun! for shining on me."

Difference is, we know the Sun exists. We know gravity exists ("It's not just a theory - it's the law!"). We can demonstrate and measure these things and we can use them in predictable, practical ways.

By contrast, the sum total of evidence and influence of all gods ever created is contained in this box:

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Skepticism is certainly warranted but out right denial would seem to be intellectually hasty. A belief in God can be reduced to the question of whether discarnate consciousness is possible. For example a compelling argument can be developed if we view the ostensible perpetuity of the universe as a self-regulating intelligence where it wills a continual existential balance; a symmetry of elemental interactions necessary to sustain life. While no definitive agent known as nature can be isolated we know that such a corporation of influences do indeed exist which comprise nature.

That's all the metaphysical speculation I have for the moment.

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Because of what you wrote.

I can't have an issue with authority if I don't see God as a real authority anyway. So what I wrote doesn't prove you right, bucko. You only saw in it what you wanted to see, and then spouted your bullshit like it was truth. Seems to be a trend with your type.

Good for you.

I'm glad to see you have no retort to this, but I think you still fail to see that this proves that I do give credence to certain authorities. Otherwise I wouldn't have even let you in on the fact that I'm a military man.

And yes, good for me. Bad for you because it proved you wrong, ya mook.

If there is a God it can be assumed that "it" is an unassumed authority which is why "it" needed people to proclaim "it."

I'm not going to assume anything, and now you have to prove why your god HAS to be an authority as well as why people HAVE to proclaim "it" as such.

I agree God has no right to do anything but be what it is and I don't believe God or any conception that I am aware of forces anyone to do anything other than live and that is optional.

This is in contradiction to how you assume that if a god exists, then he has authority. You may think your god gives choice, but he clearly does not (since he is the god of the Paradox anyway). Remember when Jonah didn't want to preach to Ninevah? Didn't God swallow him up until he repented? Sounds like Jonah had no choice at that point. I guess he could've chosen to die, but that makes god cruel in that instance.

These things and more have left me very unconvinced that I need to respect this god.

I see then that you are a person of limited choices.

According to your god, choices are limited anyway, so I'm surprised you aren't considering your conclusion about me as a welcome sign.

Thanks for your participation.