RE: What is "FAITH"
July 11, 2013 at 6:09 pm
(This post was last modified: July 11, 2013 at 6:11 pm by Consilius.)
(July 11, 2013 at 4:35 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: We're going down some rocky roads, and I'm going to go hands off on some of the things we were discussing.A car can't really be said to be good or bad. It depends on the person. That you picked the right car, that you were privileged enough to be able to afford it, is good in itself. That is invisible and immutable.
(July 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm)Consilius Wrote: And God is the embodiment of all good, independent of whether or not it is acknowledged.
How do you justify that? I don't believe that my Ford Mustang was created by God, but I see it as a good thing to have. Thus, it is good, independant of a God. It shows the ingenuity of mankind and how far they have progressed with automotive technology and fuel-cell processing.
A car is not good because there is a god, but is good because certain people think it is. Other people may think it's bad, and that's still independant of a god. You have no proof or justification for making a claim of the goodness of god, and until you do, you will not be heard in the way you want to be.
Good exists, whether or not one chooses to acknowledge it, and whether or not one cares to acknowledge God behind it.
(July 11, 2013 at 4:37 pm)Faith No More Wrote:The nature of good is invisible, personal, immutable, eternal, and universal.(July 11, 2013 at 4:12 pm)Consilius Wrote: God IS good, and good cannot exist outside of him.
Good exists independent of whether you acknowledge it, and independent of whether or not you acknowledge the Judeo-Christian deity in it.
Prove your claims, please.