(July 11, 2013 at 6:53 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:A creation can come from nothing but a creator.(July 11, 2013 at 6:49 pm)Consilius Wrote: I was presenting a point. A summary of three great and widely controversial premises:
1. The world was created.
2. The world is good.
3. Good comes from good.
That is good and all, so long as you understand no creator had any part in the world's creation and that good exists independent of any creator.
On an unrelated note, if good was created, it could not exist independent of that creator.
And so we begin.