(July 11, 2013 at 9:44 pm)Consilius Wrote: There is good in the world, hence, the world is characteristically good.
By train of the thought, the world is also characteristically bad. Do you see what I mean?
(July 11, 2013 at 9:44 pm)Consilius Wrote: We have a finite universe that came into being at a single point in time. Whatever caused this coming into existence would need to exist outside of time to cause it.
Space came into existence at this point in time. Space must come from outside of space. Something that is not limited by space.
And we go on.
And how do you know that? I know you can't fathom something coming from nothing, but if there is a creator, and if this creator is your god, and if he can't make something from nothing, then your God also can't come from nothing, which means he has a creator, and so on and so on. Does your god worship his creator? You can't possibly know these things, so then why do you accept them as fact?
(July 11, 2013 at 9:44 pm)Consilius Wrote:(July 11, 2013 at 9:41 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: A little something called secular reasoning. Science has made great strides in understanding the universe and how it works. Of course, tremendous strides could have been accomplished sooner had it not been for the theistic abhorrence of science that tends to slow down scientific progress.Is there anything that science can't do?
How can anyone possibly know the answer to that question? We know so much, but it's also possible that we've only scratched the surface of what there is to know of science.