(July 13, 2013 at 3:33 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: That's just assuming the creation of the universe was someone's choice. You still haven't proven a thing.I don't think I made an assumption. I started from scratch and used existing information to come to a conclusion.
"The force that began the universe always existed, since there was nothing to bring it into being.
The causation of the universe was not made necessary, since there was nothing to make it necessary.
As far as we know (I am willing to take correction on this one, it is redundant anyway), there are no more universes that are being caused.
THEREFORE, the causation of the universe was a free choice."
"Free choice" was just a pitstop on the road to another conclusion, "intelligent being".
Take it this way. The most basic way to say "free choice" is that the force that caused the universe took action at a singular moment.
Why did it do so? The only options are: out of necessity, and out of planning.
Before anything existed, nothing existed to put pressure on the uncaused cause to do anything.
Unless there is another option, the causation of the universe was planned. Unless there is another option, uncaused cause chose to plan it. Decision making is an attribute of intelligent beings.