RE: What is "FAITH"
July 13, 2013 at 5:47 pm
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2013 at 5:48 pm by genkaus.)
(July 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: I don't think I made an assumption. I started from scratch and used existing information to come to a conclusion.
"The force that began the universe always existed, since there was nothing to bring it into being.
Wrong. We haven't even established that the universe began in the first place.
(July 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: The causation of the universe was not made necessary, since there was nothing to make it necessary.
Wrong. We haven't established that the universe was caused.
(July 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: As far as we know (I am willing to take correction on this one, it is redundant anyway), there are no more universes that are being caused.
As far as we know, there is not even a single universe that has been caused.
(July 13, 2013 at 3:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: THEREFORE, the causation of the universe was a free choice."
Given the failure of all the other premises - wrong.
(July 13, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Consilius Wrote: The cause of the universe made time, hence it was not limited by time. Edison didn't need a lightbulb. The cause of the universe is timeless.
The cause of the universe made cause, hence it is not a product of cause. The father of cause cannot also be the son of cause. Therfore, it is uncaused.
Before spouting this nonsense, establish that there was a cause.
