RE: One question for Christians
July 14, 2013 at 10:21 pm
(This post was last modified: July 14, 2013 at 10:47 pm by ronedee.)
(July 12, 2013 at 2:02 pm)Dionysius Wrote: Dying is a part of living. Time is change.
I'll refrain from the repetitive questioning methods that you've employed and just say: That's your answer?
Here is my point(s): We know very little about most everything in the universe, including our world that we live in.
And probably surprising to you....I need proof for a lot of things in the material world that puzzles me!
Many brilliant minds have explored for us! And we benefit from their research. That is why we can explain many things. Otherwise, we would be ignorant.
"Time" means [change] to you, in your mind! But the past, present and future are all static events unaffected by [change] in my mind.
Do you see what I'm getting at Dion? We are both right. But I'm more right than you, because we are talking about these events, and nothing will [change] that (past, present or future).
The point is; just because you can't see something doesn't mean its not there or not true. And the kicker is, your theory of time [change] is more promising "spiritually" for you, and the human race than mine!
btw...both our theories are [loosely] based: A & B theories of time.
(July 12, 2013 at 2:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:(July 12, 2013 at 1:41 pm)ronedee Wrote: I guess you've never had a conversation with a 4 year old? When do you put your kid in school? And why don't they put 4 year olds in school?
I suggest "b" because you are not getting the answers you need from me.
You are trying as Dion, to make sense of something you don't understand. So you just throw material questions at spiritual concepts.
Let me ask you a question?
What are you breathing right now?
It's a breath of fresh air (no pun intended, and I will answer your question) to see that you can be a little reasonable. We might actually be able to have a conversation.
To answer your first assumption, your guess that I have never talked to a 4 year-old is wrong. You could have asked if I have, and I would have answered that I actually have a 4 year-old. This is where I get off questioning your methods, even if it only is my opinion. After all, we have this little fact in common with each other.
As for your next assumption, that they don't put 4 year-olds in school, you are, again, wrong. Go read an article on it sometime instead of coming up with baseless claims. But to answer the real question, "Are 4 year-olds developed enough to do well in school at that age," which is contextually exactly what you are asking, then my answer is: it depends on the natural intellect of the child, and the participation of the parent in the child's cognitive growth. I have a nephew who, at 3 years of age, completely understood the concept of gravity. School starts in the home, and, on some level, a child is always ready for it.
Ok.... I've had 9, 4 year old kids. All of them home schooled. I have 4 in college as we speak. My oldest just graduated in the top of her class.
We teach our children from birth. But, we also let them evolve as children. We have a few "gifted" kids, but don't push them from diapers to slide rules.
Our kids usually understand the "effects" of gravity.... usually by falling several times! I salute your 3 year old nephew who understands the "concept" of gravity that great physicists through the millennium have struggled with.
(July 12, 2013 at 2:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: You are correct about the Choice B that I proposed. I do not intend on searching for the truth with you because you cannot fully explain what it is we are looking for. That is why we keep asking you questions, but not just for our sake, but as an exercise in critical thinking for you.Great I need all the help I can get around here!
(July 12, 2013 at 2:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: If you believe in spiritual concepts, you must first explain what "spiritual" means, or, in other words, put in terms that someone can understand, and then you must prove that "spiritual" concepts are even something we should be considering in the first place. The evidence you provide must be demonstrable, just the same as evidence provided in a court of law.Well...if your nephew proves what "gravity" is, I'll prove what "spiritual" is.
(July 12, 2013 at 2:15 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: As for your last question, "What am I breathing right now?" I can certainly answer this for you. I am breathing air, or, more precisely, my body is processing nitrogen (78.09%) and oxygen (20.95%). The remaining 1% is made up of argon (0.93%), carbon dioxide (0.039% as of 2010) and other trace gases (0.003%). Water vapor (water in its gaseous state) is also present in the atmosphere in varying amounts, by up to 2%.
LOL! I want to see the chemical analysis! I think there may be a little N02 in there!

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