RE: What is "FAITH"
July 15, 2013 at 12:25 am
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2013 at 12:31 am by Consilius.)
There is no "before the universe existed", because that would require a measure of time, which didn't exist yet.
What I am suggesting is that the universe was caused by something not reliant on time, that existed on a different plane.
No. Causing cause to exist would be an act of causation which wouldn't apply without pre-existing causation.
What I am suggesting is that the universe was caused by something not reliant on time, that existed on a different plane.
(July 14, 2013 at 3:43 pm)Consilius Wrote: "the causation is an aspect of universe as well and therefore does not apply prior to it."
You said that since causation is an aspect of the universe, there can be no causation "before" it.
Is an uncaused thing needed to make cause exist?
No. Causing cause to exist would be an act of causation which wouldn't apply without pre-existing causation.
Quote:We can't have pre-existing causation because there was no time. The cause of the universe does not experience time, because it is timeless.