(July 15, 2013 at 2:01 am)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote:(July 15, 2013 at 12:25 am)Consilius Wrote: There is no "before the universe existed", because that would require a measure of time, which didn't exist yet.
What I am suggesting is that the universe was caused by something not reliant on time, that existed on a different plane.
Finally. Something coherent.
Gonna assume you mean dimensions here? because "planes of existence" is metaphysics. Positing an extra dimension is not beyond reason. But dimensions are spatial. And space only came into existence after the big bang.
If you mean plane of existence, you'll need to explain what you mean.
I'm glad to hear you say that an extra dimension is not beyond reason, I know many, many Christians that believe God existed and still does in another dimension, able to move between them as one would through a door.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
