(July 16, 2013 at 6:11 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: All you need in order to have a day is a source of light and a rotating Earth, which are both present on day 1. The Sun is created later and from then on rules the day.OK, so you're assuming another light source that Yahweh took away after the sun was created? Kind of like a temporary brace to hold up a ceiling while construction on a supporting wall is done, to be taken out once the support structure is complete? Scripture doesn't say so but I'll let you have that ret-con.
Fine then. At least you're not a flat-earther or a geo-centrist. Glad you listen to science and reject the Bible at least some of the time. You and YahwehIsTheWay can debate these point. He says we live on a flat earth and the sun revolves around it because scripture says so. In fact, a debate on scripture between the two of you on geo-centrism and flat-earth as revealed in the Bible might be fun.
Quote:You know no such thing, that’s your current scientific theory of origins. What we do know is that science is fallible, so no appeal to science can be used to prove that scripture is not infallible.

And you wonder why I don't take your arguments seriously?
First of all, so are you seriously suggesting that the earth is older than the sun?
Second of all, science is self-correcting and has a process of peer-review to ferret out faulty experiments and conclusions. Scripture can neither correct itself nor is there any peer-review process. For this reason, I trust science over any scripture.
Thirdly, to say we can't use science to dispute scripture is like saying we can't use reality to disprove fantasy. OK, what can I use then, since reality and facts are pesky things that I'm not allowed to use?
Quote:Again, more appeals to fallible science; that proves nothing in regards to the infallibility of scripture.

You can look up into the sky on a clear night, right?
When you do this, look for the Andromeda Galaxy.
It's about 2 million light years away.
This means the light you see in the sky took 2 million years to reach you.
This means that the Andromeda Galaxy is at least 2 million years old.
Not 6,000 years old. Or 10,000 years.
Quote:I am not sure what your objection is here, so you’ll have to be more specific about what error you believe this verse is committing.
The sky is not a dome.
Quote:You don't know your Bible very well.Quote:
Day 7: "I'm bushed. Gotta rest."
That’s not what the term rest means there, when a violinist “rests” during a piece of music it simply means they stop playing, it has nothing to do with being tired. Nice try though.
Quote:Exodus 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
Bold emphasis mine.
Poor guy was bushed after doing all that work.
Quote:The universe is stranger than we can imagine.
So at this point in time…time was created? Were time, space, and matter all created at the same….time? Talk about non-sense.
By our research now, it seems that time and space and matter are inter-related in one fabric. Did you know that time moves more quickly as you get away from gravity sources? And it slows down as you move toward them? That's why satellites have to compensate for this difference.
But yes, time, space and matter as we know it came to exist some 13.5 billion years ago.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist