RE: Did God fire an Angel or Did an Angel just quit?
July 17, 2013 at 8:58 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2013 at 8:59 am by DeistPaladin.)
OK, now that I'm done with your butchery of the English language, now I turn to your butchery of logic.
My original challenge was for you to provide chapter and verse that detail such an important event to Christian theology.
And here's what the linked site had to say (bold emphasis mine):
Wow. A "symbolic description" from passages that specifically refer to worldly kings but are assumed, without any cause, to be references to Satan as the "spiritual power" behind these fallen kings, even though "Satan" is mentioned in neither passage.
"10", "10", "10" on the mental gymnastics.
The snake was just a snake. Not only was there no reference to the snake being a supernatural being but there was evidence to the contrary.
The snake was an animal of the field, not a supernatural being of any kind, let alone the arch nemesis of Yahweh.
It is nothing short of amazing that such an important event in Christian theology would never be described in canonical scripture but would be left to later fan fiction. Even the Qur'an, as badly written as it is, provides a better story on the fall of Satan.
(July 16, 2013 at 5:06 pm)Drich Wrote: I'll do you one better, not only do you have B,C,andV here is some commentary to go along with it:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-fall.html
My original challenge was for you to provide chapter and verse that detail such an important event to Christian theology.
Quote:Satan wanted to be God. God got rid of him.
And here's what the linked site had to say (bold emphasis mine):
Quote:Satan’s fall from heaven is symbolically described in Isaiah 14:12-14 and Ezekiel 28:12-18. While these two passages are referring specifically to the kings of Babylon and Tyre, they also reference the spiritual power behind those kings, namely, Satan.
Wow. A "symbolic description" from passages that specifically refer to worldly kings but are assumed, without any cause, to be references to Satan as the "spiritual power" behind these fallen kings, even though "Satan" is mentioned in neither passage.
"10", "10", "10" on the mental gymnastics.
Quote:Satan fell before he tempted Adam and Eve in the Garden
The snake was just a snake. Not only was there no reference to the snake being a supernatural being but there was evidence to the contrary.
Quote:Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made
The snake was an animal of the field, not a supernatural being of any kind, let alone the arch nemesis of Yahweh.
It is nothing short of amazing that such an important event in Christian theology would never be described in canonical scripture but would be left to later fan fiction. Even the Qur'an, as badly written as it is, provides a better story on the fall of Satan.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
