RE: A new understanding to an old premise
July 25, 2013 at 11:36 pm
(This post was last modified: July 25, 2013 at 11:39 pm by MindForgedManacle.)
(July 24, 2013 at 1:57 pm)Drich Wrote: God (traditional sterotype aside) is by defination is a transdimensional being. and if He is able to offer an eternity with Him or an eternity in Hell (which either way is still another realm) then that means we (or at least apart of us) are transdimensional beings as well. So the question would then become what is this reality? This for the lack of a better term, This 'reality' then becomes "the matrix." It is reality apart from the automatic known glory of God. When have been placed in the matrix to make a choice, and to gain experience. Maybe the part of us that is to be judge (our soul) is not apart of this body at all. Maybe our soul is plugged into some 'supercomputer' or the heavenly equivalent, and we are linked to these bodies. The bible does seperate our being into Body, Mind/Spirit, and Soul. Paul makes an excellent arguement in romans 7 about this if anyone is intrested.
If we have souls and thus can go to either Heaven or Hell, that doesn't make us "trans-dimensional" anymore than it makes Neo trans-dimensional because he can enter and exit the Matrix.
Quote:The key difference between the movie version of the matrix and the one we live in is that death here does not result in death in the "real world." When one dies here, we simply wake up in the real world.(Absent from the body present with the Lord.) We wake up to eternity and the choice we made here. God simply holds us accountable to the choice we made.
About as much a choice that a Mafia boss gives a restaurant owner about paying him for "protection".
This part of Christian and Islamic theology has always bern poorly thought out and never reallt defended well at all.
Quote:Why is any of this important? I give us proper perspective. Life, death, pain, happiness, all of it in this life is really meaningless when view from an eternal perspective.
If it was "meaningless", then by necessity it was also pointless to do so, therefore God (in your worldview) has made pointless decisions that merely caused countless individuals unbearable agony and some get an eternity of punishment afterward even if they were ignorant of their apparent sinful plight.
Quote: So when someone asks why did God allow that child to die or how can a loving God command the death of women and children?? What are they really asking?
They're asking why God put us through that, when you yourself have already admitted it was meaningless, and there was no necessity in Him having allowed such trauma to occur at all.
Quote:How can God wake that person from the Matrix sooner than the rest of us? Why do we have to suffer here for 70, 80 or 90 years when that person get to wake to reality only after 9 or 10? Why wouldn't God make that person suffer a life time as I want and wish to suffer for a long life?
By your own admission of it being meaningless with respect to eternity, it is also because for some that eternity is further, infinite torture after a life with rife pain and torment. Meaninglessness abound.
Quote:If you remember the matrix was a prision, not saying there aren't those who have made prision their home.. My question is what does it say about those who hate or curse a God who end a prision sentence earily? Why is 'fairness' based on 'prision' rules?
So, God jails us in a shithole of sin, evil, depravity, pain, war, famine, etc. (in your theology), with no consent from us being apparent and for no known crime that each individual would be guilty of being known, and then following it up with either an eternity of praising him or beimg tortured in fire and sulphur, and you still wonder why?
