Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: January 12, 2025, 5:44 pm

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Dead for 45 minutes; an interesting near-death experience
#32
RE: Dead for 45 minutes; an interesting near-death experience
(July 31, 2013 at 5:43 pm)Tonus Wrote:
(July 31, 2013 at 10:44 am)enrico Wrote: Not only that but if you were following Christianity you will see Christ, if you were following Buddha you will see Buddha, if you were following Shiva you will see Shiva if you were into spirituality you may perceive God as a bright light, if you never believe in religion or spirituality but you were ok then you may perceive God in different manner.

It's almost as if the mind is simply creating an experience from things it already experienced and/or believed. Imagine that.
The mind does the same thing when you see a tree. But this doesn't undermine the symbolic validity of the tree.

As an explanation of an existent being, the religious mythologies are probably a big fail. However, as symbolism for things that people care about-- compassion, selflessness, hope in hard times, etc.-- they can still have value. A dream or vision of your cultural symbol of choice isn't only a superstitious mental weakness. It's a moment when your core beliefs take on an emotional reality, rather than just being oft-repeated lip service. The problem comes when people take those moments of symbolic truth, and ascribe them to reality: "There REALLY is a heaven, because I experienced it, so I'm going to give away all my money and live in a cave" is not a good response to a vision of Jesus carrying you up to heaven, IMO. Or worse: "Only Christians can be saved and go to heaven. So if necessary, we must threaten non-Christians with death in the hope of saving their souls, and might as well kill them if they obviously won't ever come to accept Jesus."

So in short-- experiences carry their own value, and this value is subjective. But reality doesn't care about our subjective valuations, and may not play along with the beliefs that get attached to those moments.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Dead for 45 minutes; an interesting near-death experience - by bennyboy - August 1, 2013 at 9:46 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Video thread for interesting philosophical discussions on YouTube and elsewhere GrandizerII 2 428 August 26, 2020 at 8:43 am
Last Post: GrandizerII
  Nietzsche in 12 minutes. ignoramus 16 1345 July 14, 2020 at 4:24 pm
Last Post: Porcupine
  Does one need to go through traumatic experience to truly appreciate living? Aegon 27 4055 May 14, 2018 at 8:34 pm
Last Post: The Valkyrie
  Interesting Study Minimalist 2 647 October 24, 2017 at 5:07 am
Last Post: WinterHold
  Question about Near Death Experiences Mirek-Polska 36 6810 February 11, 2017 at 10:55 am
Last Post: Whateverist
Question How does one respond to this argument?It's long but an interesting read. Thanks :) fruyian 44 8426 May 19, 2016 at 5:08 pm
Last Post: SteveII
  Interesting statistics about academic philosophy Mudhammam 35 7851 September 18, 2015 at 10:24 am
Last Post: robvalue
  The interesting history they don't teach in schools nihilistcat 43 7056 April 23, 2015 at 5:20 pm
Last Post: Hatshepsut
  Argument Against Religious Experience as Validation MindForgedManacle 31 8144 November 4, 2013 at 6:51 pm
Last Post: Lion IRC
  Conscious thought, experience, and the inevitable. Creed of Heresy 7 4711 April 18, 2012 at 11:44 am
Last Post: genkaus



Users browsing this thread: 9 Guest(s)