(August 12, 2013 at 3:25 am)ITChick Wrote: GC, you seem to think that we only care about ourselves. Why did I worry about hell when I was a Christian? Because I had a muslim friend who was a better person than most Christians and my "holy book" told me that she would be tortured for all eternity.
Because I loved my grandparents to bits before they died and my holy book told me that they are being tortured right now.
Because I think that torturing anyone (or allowing the torture of anyone) is one of the worst crimes that you can commit - I don't care what they did to "deserve it".
And if you think it is ok - there is something seriously wrong with you or you only care about yourself.
Edit: You will also notice that most of us told him to read the bible. Surely you can't disagree with that?
MonkeyMan - I find that watching comics are good (if a bit biased). Darkmatter2525 is one of my favourites in helping put stuff into context.
Also, as others mentioned - read the bible. You will soon find out that it is pretty difficult to tell who the "good guys" are supposed to be.
You are absolutely right - I have only started my new walk through Genesis and this is without using the Skeptics Bible. When I am finished I will go over it again and see if it finds any holes I have missed.
There are several paradoxes heres some majors I have learned thus far?
Well
1) Why did God turn Cain against Abel - God chose one side!
2) Abraham was an ass hole, Telling the Pharaoh is wife was his sister then God punishing the Pharaoh. Not even that but the Pharaoh let Abraham keep all the Good stuff the Pharaoh gave him that's deception and it shows that the Good guy gets punished.
3) Then we have another King Abiem - Again Abraham pretends Sarah is is Sister - The King takes her then God punishes the King and even gets the king to ask Abraham for forgiveness.
4) God sent Haggar and Ishmael away and then God is found saying Abraham had only One Son!. That sounds really fair and Just?!
5) God seams to do allot of 'Remembering' and it seams he needs allot of 'Reasoning' too because is is not decisive.
Heres the Cracker
6) God told Abraham to Kill Issaic - Abraham didn't even resist it. Then when he is about to kill him 'An Angel of the Lord - Shouts Stop!' Notice that God told Abraham to Kill but an Angel told him to stop. GOD NEVER TOLD ABRAHAM TO STOP.
I'm only at Genesis 25 and I already see that Abraham was a ball bag. I haven't found that it doesn't disprove God only that God shows favorites and to hell with everyone else - LITERALLY.
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