RE: "IF" there was a God....
August 14, 2013 at 11:13 pm
(This post was last modified: August 14, 2013 at 11:34 pm by Drich.)
(August 14, 2013 at 4:26 pm)Faith No More Wrote: But what if what you've just said is bad information?1thess 5:21 says: Question all things and hold on to what is good. Which means here Keep A/S/K and find out for yourself.
Quote:You're missing the point. There are many disagreements among all of the "Christ centered interpretations," so each one can't be true. I feel, however, there is a different point you're trying to make but just haven't communicated it properly.
No one has it right, not completely, at the same time no one has it wrong completely. We have been tasked to simply Worship and do our best using all we have been given to make that happen. Look at the parable of the talents in Mat 25. There is not a absolute standard in which all three servant are expected to perform to a given standard across the board. Rather each one was expected to perform only in accordance to what he was given.
This parable paralells our comprehension of the bible/God and ablity to serve and worship. As we Grow Spiritually it is quite possiable we will begin to see the chinks in the doctrines of the religion of our childhoods. As such we are expected to A/S/K to find a brand of Christianity that will help us grow to the next stage of our Spiritual relationship. But because most of us are under the impression that only one version can be correct when we start to see the chinks we loose faith, simply because we do not understand the very basics of Christianity.
Think about it. The God of the bible established Judaism as well as Christianity. In Judaism there are so many rules that there is no doubt who or what makes an OT Jew. Christianity is not that way, why? Because it is not about the worship of law, but of the freedom to worship with all of your being. which because we are all different our worship will manifest itself differently from person to person. Hence 30,000 different expressions of Christ centered Christianity.
(August 14, 2013 at 10:31 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Ignorance is causing you to argue for the sake of arguing. All Christianity is based on an interpretation of the Bible, so you can't convince us that yours is the right Christianity. Before we can even consider your Christ, you need to remember that you must demonstrably prove God first. This is not the last time you will hear this, but I'm sure it's also not the last time you'll ignore it.Ah, no. Christ said not all who call them selves 'Christian' are. Only those who do the will of the Father. Meaning it is not possiable to be born into Christianity, as it is an active choice to do the will of the Father.
You are confusing 'christianity' the religion/man made crap, with what Christ Identifies as the 'Church' or rather Christianity
Christ makes it very clear that there is a very sharp divide between the man made religious crap, and what He has done for The Church/Christianity.
(August 14, 2013 at 11:02 pm)whateverist Wrote:(August 14, 2013 at 10:35 pm)Drich Wrote: All of this stuff is in the bible here is what God says:
Translation: Assuming you want to know what the christian god says -and agree that the bible has any bearing on what that god thinks- then the answers to all your questions can be found in the bible.
Comment: That's a lot of ifs but mighty generous of you to track them down for those interested in the bible-based Christian god.
Indeed, but that is what we are all here for amiright? amiright? After all we are in the 'christian' section of the this website, so it follows you are indeed looking to discuss 'The Christian God.'
Quote:Can't answer for Poca but if we could ask a god in what its essence is to be found I would find those answers unsatisfying.
I didn't know God's Job was to give you an answer that satasifies you.. I believe the unapproachably simple answer He gives denys the lazy atheists the satasfication of trying to muddle it up with the same 'can god create a rock too heavy for him to lift' crap you all are known to surround yourselves with. It is the simple things God uses to confound the wise and learned of this world.
Quote:Saying God is the ultimate authority is just saying he is the chief, mega-boss, over-lord.
Indeed!
Quote:Interesting if one was checking credentials but not very helpful for understanding what God's nature might be. Also, to say he can be whoever he wants to be makes me think of the Matrix. So you're saying God can just replace anyone else's essence like the guys in the black suits? Good trick, but again, not terribly responsive.Have you not read my matrix thread?
Quote:Don't you realize how hollow it is to toss off a stock answer like that? What really does that mean and how do you know it's true? Wait - I know! The bible! Amirite, amirite?
If we are speaking of the God of the bible then what other source material has greater authority?
That Like saying Drich defineThe word: "matrix" and then mock me for going to the dictionary... I don't get it. If you want proper information then one is bound by actual reference material.
In this case the bible is the only authority one can speak of the God of the bible.
why aren't my posts posting?