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Question for Christians/Muslims etc.
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RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc.
(January 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm)padraic Wrote:


Where the hell do you get off telling a Christian what he/ shoe is/ is not obligated or duty bound to do! Time and time again people get banned on here for "preaching" as per the rules, yet you want him to "bear witness". Hold on I need to recalibrate my irony meter for a whole bunch of WTH.

Anyways, The canonization of the books of the bible weren't to choose which gospels were true or untrue, it was to choose which one's were divinely relevant to the religion. Josephus, Tacitus, the Talmud, Pliny the younger, Suetonius, Mara Bar-Serapion, Julius Africanus, Lucian of Samosata, The Toledot Yeshu , Quran, etc. all aside from the bible accept the life of Jesus. They may have different subjective opinions of who he was and what he did, but all accept that Jesus was a man. Yes, they were not eye-witness accounts. Yes, it makes more sense that his body was stolen.

"The denial of that existence seems never to have occurred even to the bitterest gentile or Jewish opponents of nascent Christianity" (Durant, The Story of Civilization, vol. 3, p. 555). People can't agree on what happened to JFK, and that was on video. Hisory where not backed by historical acheological evidence is subjective and written by the victors. He wasn't a famous carpenter, or ruler. He was a crucified, religious minority leader. If you're looking for a cup he made, or a chair he crafted or some idol facade of him on a statue, go watch Indiana Jones and continue to live in your denial.

(January 8, 2010 at 11:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote:




People have seen Elvis, too.

Are you denying that Elvis did exist and that he was a singer with some talent? Some atheists treat Jesus that way.
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Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 2, 2009 at 6:28 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by rjh4 - December 2, 2009 at 9:13 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Amphora - December 2, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by fr0d0 - December 2, 2009 at 4:42 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - December 3, 2009 at 2:36 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Violet - December 3, 2009 at 3:25 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Eilonnwy - December 3, 2009 at 4:30 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Purple Rabbit - December 4, 2009 at 8:10 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Rhizomorph13 - December 4, 2009 at 8:16 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by theVOID - December 4, 2009 at 11:52 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Eilonnwy - December 4, 2009 at 9:03 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by A897 - December 27, 2009 at 6:43 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 4, 2009 at 7:50 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - December 10, 2009 at 9:47 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 4, 2009 at 8:12 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 4, 2009 at 8:48 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Eilonnwy - December 4, 2009 at 9:33 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by theVOID - December 11, 2009 at 1:27 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Edwardo Piet - January 3, 2010 at 8:08 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - December 4, 2009 at 9:31 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Last_ Ray - December 26, 2009 at 5:18 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by leo-rcc - December 26, 2009 at 7:22 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 26, 2009 at 6:10 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Last_ Ray - December 26, 2009 at 6:58 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Darwinian - December 26, 2009 at 7:32 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by fr0d0 - December 27, 2009 at 8:09 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by solarwave - January 2, 2010 at 7:10 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by leo-rcc - January 2, 2010 at 8:58 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 2, 2010 at 9:11 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by chatpilot - January 2, 2010 at 12:43 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 2, 2010 at 8:08 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by solarwave - January 8, 2010 at 2:51 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Edwardo Piet - January 8, 2010 at 7:37 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 8, 2010 at 6:33 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 9, 2010 at 11:41 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 9, 2010 at 8:20 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 8, 2010 at 11:48 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by A897 - January 9, 2010 at 4:28 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Edwardo Piet - January 9, 2010 at 6:09 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 9, 2010 at 6:46 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by padraic - January 9, 2010 at 5:00 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 10, 2010 at 2:03 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 10, 2010 at 5:01 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 13, 2010 at 10:07 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 2:38 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 10, 2010 at 10:40 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 11:23 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by tackattack - January 10, 2010 at 11:29 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 10, 2010 at 11:56 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Amphora - January 12, 2010 at 1:51 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 12, 2010 at 1:54 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by KichigaiNeko - January 12, 2010 at 3:11 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 12, 2010 at 6:20 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by littlegrimlin1 - January 12, 2010 at 11:03 pm
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Retorth - January 13, 2010 at 2:54 am
RE: Question for Christians/Muslims etc. - by Minimalist - January 13, 2010 at 12:10 pm

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