Question for Christians/Muslims etc.

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Cos he doesn't like the cut of their jib.

EvF

----and what if you have an uncut jib?

[Autumnlicious]

^^ And what if you don't have jibs?

What does Jesus like?

[downbeatplumb]

Actually I think there is good reason to believe in the resurrection (which there is no point going into).

People at the time saw Him, so it does say more than no one seeing Him come out of the grave.

(Poor attempt at post I know lol)

People are declared dead and later get up all the time even today!
This is not down to divine intervention but piss poor doctors.
Who declared Jesus dead? where was he trained? was he having an 'off day'?
The trouble with the bible is that people take it at face value and dont question it.

Dont get me started on the 'virgin birth'.

[tackattack]

[Oldandeasilyconfused]

Where the hell do you get off telling a Christian what he/ shoe is/ is not obligated or duty bound to do!

Pardon? Who put you in charge? I will tell Christians whatever I like,they are under no obligation do as I say..

To answer your question.Growing up Catholic I was taught it is the duty of every Christian to give witness, and that this admonition came from Jesus. It bothers me not a jot that you disagree. or that you are miffed.You do not get to tell me what I may say or not say.

--- denying that Elvis did exist and that he was a singer with some talent? Some atheists treat Jesus that way.

Straw man. AND Elvis was a real person.Jesus was not.(IE there is no evidence he existed )

I have nothing further to say to you on this thread; I might say something unkind.

[Minimalist]

[tackattack]

So
1. Pliny the Younger found superstitious people willing to deny christ for other God's and worshiped him like a god.
2.Julius Africanus (through) Eusebius referenced Jesus but it's hearsay and we're assuming he forged some references.
3.Josephus and Tacitus that have the "stench of forgery" but reference Jesus.

I'll discard the others. How does this not support Jesus' existance alongside the bible?


As far as the above, religion was power and control. Lot's of people abused it and still do. Would you rather assume they made up entire sections of the bible from scratch or just rearranged the ones that profitted them most. The Bible scrolls existed before the cannonization and people already knew the stories, so they couldn't have changed much.


@padriac,

Sorry I was having a bad day and was very uncordial. The scriptures I've read about it speak of being ambassador and persuading others. One of many in a list of things to do. Some sects do feel very strongly about theese few verses. I'd be surprised is more than 55% of modern non-denominational Christians feel it is their duty to evangelicize(??). I'm sure fewer than 25% even share their faith intentionally with non-believers. It is definately not wanted on this forum and I was perhaps just as tired of atheist smarmy attacks as I'm sure most people on here are tired ofevery Christian coming here and spouting the same thing.

[Retorth]

1. Pliny the Younger found superstitious people willing to deny christ for other God's and worshiped him like a god.
2.Julius Africanus (through) Eusebius referenced Jesus but it's hearsay and we're assuming he forged some references.
3.Josephus and Tacitus that have the "stench of forgery" but reference Jesus.

I'll discard the others. How does this not support Jesus' existance alongside the bible?

The act of referencing Jesus and the bible makes their existence legit?

Re

[tackattack]

1. Pliny the Younger found superstitious people willing to deny christ for other God's and worshiped him like a god.
2.Julius Africanus (through) Eusebius referenced Jesus but it's hearsay and we're assuming he forged some references.
3.Josephus and Tacitus that have the "stench of forgery" but reference Jesus.

I'll discard the others. How does this not support Jesus' existance alongside the bible?

The act of referencing Jesus and the bible makes their existence legit?

Re

Then how would you prove any historical figure only documented in writing exists without seeing his bones and DNA testing them or some statue and effigy or product of their creation?

[Retorth]

1. Pliny the Younger found superstitious people willing to deny christ for other God's and worshiped him like a god.
2.Julius Africanus (through) Eusebius referenced Jesus but it's hearsay and we're assuming he forged some references.
3.Josephus and Tacitus that have the "stench of forgery" but reference Jesus.

I'll discard the others. How does this not support Jesus' existance alongside the bible?

The act of referencing Jesus and the bible makes their existence legit?

Re

Then how would you prove any historical figure only documented in writing exists without seeing his bones and DNA testing them or some statue and effigy or product of their creation?

I'm not the one claiming he exists.

Re