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Obama gives lobbyists the boot
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RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot
(January 14, 2010 at 3:07 pm)Robpotter Wrote: First, your statements contradict each other. You want more transparency of the government... but you also want corporations to not be able to make campaign contributions... although im sure you don't get the connection yet meatball, I will explain your error.
You're absolutely right, I don't see any contradiction in those positions. Perhaps you could explain what exactly you think government transparency is?

Quote:You would like the people to make the decisions, as to not "fuck up [themselves]" correct? Who do you think that corporation is? It is made up from people all across America, relying on that paycheck to come through.
This is true, however in some cases the positions corporations would want to lobby for would greatly benefit the fat cats at the top of the ladder, while not doing much for (or even detrimenting) those waiting for the paycheque.

Look at the current healthcare debate. Insurance lobbies successfully destroyed the public healthcare option. This benefits the health insurance companies greatly. The people that lobbied for this are trying to maximize their profits, not provide better healthcare for America. There are very few people in America who truly benefit from such a legislative decision. A couple hundred executives, mostly. This is an example of how a lobby represents a corporation, but a corporation doesn't represent all it's members.

Quote:You would never make a good politician.
Thank you.

Quote:and to just riddle your theory with bullet holes, do you really expect a law based solely on a corporation, that hinders all of America, to make it through BOTH houses of congress, and the president? Now you'l say it can pass without president approval, which is true if congress grants a 2/3 vote (a super majority, that is rarely seen on controversal laws). and then, the supreme court (which never is effected by campaign contributions... they dont take any) can easily scratch that law from existence declaring it unconstitutional (which it would be if it truly hindered America).
Thanks for the civics lesson, but garbage passes right through the legislative system all. the. time. Not in the blatant way your strawman implies, but it does.
Quote:You say Im on crack as well? Well, since crack is a derivative of cocaine which is a powerful stimulant, encouraging thought, I see myself one leg up from you.. the mentally incompetent.
Great job.
- Meatball
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Messages In This Thread
Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Meatball - November 27, 2009 at 5:16 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Minimalist - November 27, 2009 at 5:37 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Meatball - November 27, 2009 at 6:00 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by padraic - November 27, 2009 at 6:58 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Robpotter - January 13, 2010 at 10:56 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Meatball - January 14, 2010 at 2:43 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Robpotter - January 14, 2010 at 3:07 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Meatball - January 14, 2010 at 4:00 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Minimalist - November 27, 2009 at 7:55 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Rhage - November 28, 2009 at 12:56 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Autumnlicious - November 28, 2009 at 8:07 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Minimalist - November 29, 2009 at 2:30 am
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Violet - November 30, 2009 at 4:56 am
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Rhage - November 30, 2009 at 7:24 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Autumnlicious - November 30, 2009 at 8:36 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by theblindferrengi - January 14, 2010 at 10:11 am
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Robpotter - January 14, 2010 at 1:55 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by theblindferrengi - January 15, 2010 at 1:24 am
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Meatball - January 22, 2010 at 10:22 am
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by Minimalist - October 9, 2010 at 2:28 am
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by DeistPaladin - November 16, 2010 at 2:18 pm
RE: Obama gives lobbyists the boot - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 9, 2010 at 5:32 am

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