(September 9, 2013 at 10:02 pm)Minimalist Wrote: No. We're not.
I forgot you were in here! Let me rephrase that, “Most of us are friends here!”

(September 9, 2013 at 10:03 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Don't let it go to your head.
It won’t.

(September 9, 2013 at 11:02 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: HiyaIn answer to your question, yes. Why did I lose you?
…because I do not see how it is analogous. The ministry of Christ is based upon eye witness testimony and we do have proof of its validity. Since a miracle by definition is something that is scientifically impossible, I do not see how that point was relevant either.
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No, I don't. Care to share why you do?
I am just shocked, you seem to be far more mainstream than that. You’d be hard pressed to find two historians that do not believe Jesus really existed. Even Dawkins believes that Jesus existed.
Quote: Hey I agree we're all brothers and sistersOf course, I'll disown a few who downright want to hurt their fellow man. Did you know mental abuse is equivocal to physical abuse? Unhealthy mentality can cause abnormalities biologically. Were you aware that your bible teaches doctrine that causes unhealthy mental states and is responsible for untold amounts of suicides because of its' very existence and terminology?
Don't feel prosecuted though, if my great great great grand daddy's book told people they could fly with their mind and they jumped off a bridge: I'd disown that one too.
So you reject any claim that may lead to mental hardship regardless of whether it is true or not?
Quote: Some guy who has no records pertaining to his existence rose from the dead and absolved all my sins for eternity!
No records of his existence? We have this wonderful thing called the New Testament.
Quote: I have pictures of Jesus --oh wait no I don't.
Do you have pictures of Plato? Was he a myth too?
Quote: I saw it happen--oh wait, no I didn't.
Have you seen Plato?
Quote: I heard about it from someone who witnessed---oh wait, no I haven't.
Do you have manuscripts written by eye witnesses to Plato? We have manuscripts who originate from eye witnesses of Jesus.
Quote: I have irrefuteable proof that he did or can re-animate-- Oh, yeah, nevermind no I don't.
Do you have sound proof Plato existed?
Quote: I have scientific proof that the events surrounding gods death geologically happened-- Oh wait, NO I DON'T!
Science doesn’t deal with proof, so if that’s your standard then you can believe in the existence of nothing.
Quote: WOW though, right? He must be god, that man. I mean you have a book that says so, and until you can do what I say he did, he's GOD.
Jesus is God, we know this has to be true.
(September 10, 2013 at 1:54 pm)tokutter Wrote: Does Statler's god not have the right to tell him he will never lie to his creation and then do so???
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Why are you struggling with this? God has the right to do whatever He pleases with His creation, and yet there are certain things God would never do because they are contrary to His character. That’s pretty simple.
(September 10, 2013 at 2:28 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: No.
Well that settles that! DeistPaladin says God does not have the right to do something; therefore God does not have the right to do that thing!
(September 10, 2013 at 2:03 pm)Tonus Wrote: God is the ultimate example of "might makes right" so he does have the right to lie to humanity if he chooses. Christians believe that he chooses not to do so, and it's not an illogical stance to take. After all, what does god have to fear with being honest? None of his creation can bring him to justice if they didn't like what he was doing to them. You listen to theists explain god's nature, and you get the impression that he's the sort of fellow who would have his henchmen saw your fingers off for some frivolous reason, and then make you thank him for it because at least he left you your palms. And forearms. AND HEAD.
I love discussing with you because I always agree with exactly half of what you write.
