(September 13, 2013 at 6:07 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Are you seriously suggesting that those who knew Jesus, would embellish his accomplishments all the while knowing that this would lead to their brutal deaths in a very anti-Christian Roman empire? That’s not even a remote possibility; people do not die for what they know to be false.
Some problems with this argument:
1. You're using folklore to prove mythology.
We're all familiar with the classic Hollywood imagery of Christians being tortured and killed by dastardly Roman pagans and yet they held their head high and looked forward to being united with their celestial savior (*cue the swelling orchestral music to enhance the drama*). Got any proof that it happened outside Christian folklore?
2. Yes, people die all the time for what they either know or should know to be false.
Don't ask me to explain why it happens. I just know that it does happen even in today's world which should be less superstitious and more educated.
David Koresh. The Heaven's Gate cult. Jim Jones. The list goes on. Modern day cults where leaders and followers alike lay down their lives for absolutely crazy beliefs. And these things happen today. You think Judea of the first few centuries, with all the superstitions of the primitive world, would be any less prone to this kind of crazy behavior?
To dismiss modern cultists as crazy but early Christians as "knowing the truth" is classic special pleading.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist