RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 25, 2013 at 10:30 pm
(This post was last modified: September 25, 2013 at 10:33 pm by Mystical.)
So just to recap, I've shown you why the bible is considered the direct word of god given to man through the holy spirit, I've given you numerous verses that state that those who deny the word of god go to hell, I've shown you reasons why one incurs the wrath of god which includes not professing jesus christ as the son of god, I've shown you and godschild what happens to those who are victims of the wrath of god, I've additionally shown you verses that say the unbelievers will be thrown into the lake of fire, I've confirmed numerous times that not just demons and satan go to this eternal torment, I then demonstrated what the BIBLE says about the eternal nature of hell, and you're still here scratching your head? You must be more daft than I thought.
Here we go again, chile.. Do pay attention this time
The Bible is the direct word of god per your own brethren's words here.
Unless you don't believe god is perfect, then his word is perfect as well and that means that the bible is unerring because of the nature of god. (Which, incidentally, has been proven to be in error on this forum more times than I can count.)
Those who deny this go to hell, including but not limited to: unbelievers here.
John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.
Revelations 21
8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and [e]brimstone, which is the second death.”
1 John 5:10-12
The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son. And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.
Romans 1
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Hell is eternal tormenthere.
God's wrath here.
If anything fishy, the vagueness of my assertion needs clarified, and your claim that I don't have anything to back up my claim that those who don't follow the bible will go to hell is yet again: refuted.
Here we go again, chile.. Do pay attention this time
The Bible is the direct word of god per your own brethren's words here.
Unless you don't believe god is perfect, then his word is perfect as well and that means that the bible is unerring because of the nature of god. (Which, incidentally, has been proven to be in error on this forum more times than I can count.)
Those who deny this go to hell, including but not limited to: unbelievers here.
John 3:36
Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.
Revelations 21
8 But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and [e]brimstone, which is the second death.”
1 John 5:10-12
The one who believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself; the one who does not believe God has made Him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has given concerning His Son. And the testimony is this, that God has given us eternal life, and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son has the life; he who does not have the Son of God does not have the life.
Romans 1
20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Hell is eternal tormenthere.
God's wrath here.
If anything fishy, the vagueness of my assertion needs clarified, and your claim that I don't have anything to back up my claim that those who don't follow the bible will go to hell is yet again: refuted.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.