One question for Christians

[downbeatplumb]

3. The Christians themselves have never told a coherent story in the first place, let alone provided any reason to believe it.

This seems to be a poorly worded attempt at poisoning the well. Christianity is remarkably united on their Christology, so apparently the New Testament does present a coherent picture of the Christ.

Statler

Your statement here shows either a profound lack of knowledge of the early church or it is a deliberate lie.

Marcionism.

Marcion believed Jesus Christ was the savior sent by God, and Paul of Tarsus was his chief apostle, but he rejected the Hebrew Bible and the God of Israel. Marcionists believed that the wrathful Hebrew God was a separate and lower entity than the all-forgiving God of the New Testament.

Valesians

The Valesians were a Christian sect that advocated self-castration. The sect was founded by Valens (not to be confused with the Roman Emperor of the same name), an Arabian philosopher who established the sect sometime in the second century AD.[1] They were notorious for forcibly castrating travelers whom they encountered and guests who visited them.

Angelici

The Angelici were a heretical sect of the 3rd century. St. Augustine supposes them thus called from their yielding an extravagant worship of angels, and such as tended to idolatry. However, Epiphanius derives the name from their holding that the world was created by angels.

Arabici

The Arabici believed the soul was to perish with the body, though both soul and body would be revived again on Judgement Day. The Arabici theorized this from their study of I Tim., vi, 16, "Who only hath immortality." This passage, they held, ascribes immortality to God alone, and therefore prevents its possession by man.

Elcesaites

Hippolytus of Rome (Philosophumena, IX, 8-13) records that in the time of Pope Callixtus I (217-222) a Jewish Christian called Alcibiades of Apamea, came to Rome, bringing a book which he said had been received from Parthia by a just man named Elchasai.[2] According to Alcibiades the book had been revealed by an angel ninety-six miles high, sixteen miles broad and twenty-four across the shoulders, whose footprints were fourteen miles long and four miles wide by two miles deep. This giant angel was the Son of God, who was accompanied by His Sister, the Holy Ghost, of the same dimensions.[3] Alcibiades announced that a new remission of sins had been proclaimed in the third year of Trajan (A.D. 100), and he described a baptism which should impart this forgiveness even to the grossest sinners.

Cathars

Catharism had its roots in the Paulician movement in Armenia and the Bogomils of Bulgaria, which took influences from the Paulicians. Though the term "Cathar" (/ˈkæθɑːr/) has been used for centuries to identify the movement, whether the movement identified itself with this name is debatable.[3] In Cathar texts, the terms "Good Men" (Bons Hommes) or "Good Christians" are the common terms of self-identification.[4] The idea of two Gods or principles, one being good the other evil, was central to Cathar beliefs. The good God was the God of the New Testament and the creator of the spiritual realm as opposed to the bad God who many Cathars identified as Satan creator of the physical world of the Old Testament

All these are on the wikipedia pages.

Very consistent views aren't they.