(September 29, 2013 at 8:05 am)Tonus Wrote:(September 29, 2013 at 7:53 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: A saved person has God the Holy Spirit within them which bears witness.
Is there any way to demonstrate this? There must be, you are saying that god himself dwells within those who are saved and bears witness. Or does he only demonstrate this to the person in question?
The Bible says that God does indeed dwell within the saved person. It would be hard to demonstrate that because God does not in this age of grace work by signs. Although many of the saved do indeed show such a changed life, it may indeed give external evidence.
However, the inner experience cannot be shown.
I will give you an analogy.
Say there is a hot stove.
You can tell a child that the stove is hot and to not touch the stove or they will be burned.
Now the child must believe what was told to them on faith.
They cannot know that it is hot unless they touch the stove.
If they do touch the stove, then they will now know.
I can tell you that a saved person does have the witness of God within them. You can choose to believe or disbelieve what I just said.
The only way to know what that experience is like is to actually get saved, and then you will know.