RE: Atheists and Agnostics risk infinite loss for no gain
October 1, 2013 at 11:43 am
(This post was last modified: October 1, 2013 at 11:55 am by Doubting Thomas.)
(October 1, 2013 at 10:36 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: When an atheist invokes the possibility of God, the atheist has just contradicted their own belief.
No, an atheist still doesn't believe in any gods, even if he/she admits that a god could exist if shown to in some manner. No gods have ever been shown to exist, and all gods were likely made up by man's imagination, but science will tell us that we don't know everything, and there could be some being way out there in space which fits the definition of a god. But until that being is discovered, we remain skeptical of all god claims since none of them are based upon evidence.
(October 1, 2013 at 11:33 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: The atheist or agnostic is still risking infinite loss if he is wrong no matter if there are 1 or 4 choices of believe or damned.
No they're not. They're only risking not following some crazy, made up bullshit idea of a vengeful god which will condemn anyone to an eternity of suffering and torment even for the slightest transgression. Pascal's Wager only works if you presuppose that Christianity is true and there really is a Hell. It also only works if you accept the idea that someone can choose to start believing in something they don't believe in, your god is not omniscient, or else he doesn't care if someone is just going through the motions and only cares about increasing the numbers in the pews on Sunday mornings.
Quote:Pascal's wager says investigate the 4 choices.
More like investigate the 4,000 choices. You can't follow every single religion and not violate the tenets of the others. Christianity says to have no other gods except God, so even if you worship other gods "just in case" they're the right god, you're going to hell if Christianity is the one true religion. And I'm sure other religions have prohibitions against practicing Christianity. And even in Christianity there are thousands of different denominations.
So the smart thing to do is sit back and wait for one religion to prove itself beyond any doubt as the one true religion and then worship that one. Since none of them can do that, looks like my Sundays will be free.
Christian apologetics is the art of rolling a dog turd in sugar and selling it as a donut.