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Atheists and Agnostics risk infinite loss for no gain
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RE: Atheists and Agnostics risk infinite loss for no gain
(October 1, 2013 at 8:18 am)SavedByGraceThruFaith Wrote: Here is what Jesus Christ instructed.

Matthew 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

You said this quite a while ago, but I had to make a point on it, since I used the same quote in one of my threads:

http://atheistforums.org/thread-20938.html

I never thought I'd be telling a Bible-hugger that you're taking it out of context but that's just what happened. Read the full quote:

“You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? (Matthew 5:43-47 )

There is much more to this scripture than just what you posted. Let me tell you how I analyzed it:

a) Don't follow the law, love your enemies. Can do!
b) Asking God to help your enemies is the proper way to do things. That just feels empty. I'd feel greater satisfaction if I did the helping, not God.
c) God rewards and punishes the good and the bad evenly. So, what's the difference? If neither way has the upper hand, why are there commandments?
d) I thought we were supposed to love our enemies. Why is Jesus bad-mouthing corrupt tax collectors? Is that showing love for a common enemy?
e) So if you're kind to people that aren't your friends, you are better than anybody else? That just feels kinda wrong to me.

This scripture, as with a lot more of the stuff from the Bible, is flawed. It makes little sense, and shows that Jesus was a bigoted man, just like everyone else.

So, don't preach to me, kind sir, unless you are willing to explain the true meanings of everything you say.
"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
- Buddha
"Anyone wanting to believe Jesus lived and walked as a real live human being must do so despite the evidence, not because of it."
- Dennis McKinsey
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RE: Atheists and Agnostics risk infinite loss for no gain - by Beta Ray Bill - October 1, 2013 at 3:30 pm

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