Atheist Becomes Catholic

[Creed of Heresy]

You can't argue with the gnome once he's "dropped some knowledge bombs" on you. The main point is you don't know what you think you know you just believe you know what you know, but it's a belief at the end of the day. You don't get to "prove" the existence God either way with science which atheists seem to think they have done.

I think the argument was actually made...that argument being "you can't possibly be serious with this unbelievable level of intellectual ineptitude."

And no atheist has ever claimed that science has proved god either way. In fact, it's the fact that god is an unprovable that makes it so easy to reject his existence; if you cannot prove nor disprove something, it has no basis in reality. Science is the study of reality. If your god cannot fit in with the study of reality, then he is not real. However, if he could become disprovable, then he would actually suddenly become a part of reality. The fact he is unprovable is NOT a strength of the theistic argument; it is, in fact, the very basis of you not being allowed to claim your stance to be rational, reasonable, or logical in any context other than your subjective own. Your subjective experience and belief is not an objective truth that we are all blind to, stop being such an egomaniacal arrogant piss. How many fucking times do we have to tell you delusional ass-brains that the burden of proof lies with you because you are making the claim? You don't get to state that just because someone else doesn't blindly believe you without carefully scrutinizing and testing your claims and pointing out when it comes up empty and baseless that they're unreasonable or irrational, you ass-bag.

Here, allow me to demonstrate.

I believe you're literally a dickless bitch with a solid stone slab for a brain. I claim you are, in fact. Oh, sure, you might go get a brain scan to show otherwise and you might be able to look between your legs to know otherwise, but I am claiming both of these to be true, and this is rational because I claim this, and I bet I can convince a good number of people that this is truth, and even if you bring to bear a whole load of proof showing this can't be the case, my subjective truth over-rides yours entirely because it is objective, because I claim it so and have others who believe me, therefore it is rational.

This is no different from your own stance. You believe the bible is true because it says so and others believe it's true and that actually somehow means something. Even though there is lots of undeniable proof to show it isn't, that all of its claims are in fact bullshit claims, you are still stating that it is true just because. QED.

Something has to exist eternally, our universe didn't and our universe has structure and precise mathematical construction, structure and contingency.

Are you really so sure it didn't? How do you know? Do you just believe this? Do you have a means of disproving this? Or proving this? Or are you just making yet another claim that has nothing to back it up? I am going to say yes, yes you are.

You may as well say you can construct a car by detonating a bomb in a junkyard and all the parts just come together naturally.

Do it a few trillion times and that might actually happen. How do you know it couldn't? Can you prove or disprove this? Or is this another unprovable? Yes, yes it is.

We know something to be the work of an intelligence when we see it the universe is such a construction.

Do we, now! How do you know that we will always know something to be the work of an intelligence? What happens if we come across something that is shaped like a building, looks like a building, has windows and everything like a building but it turns out it was a one in a googleplex chance that it just happened to all form that way because the forces of nature happened to align themselves in such a way as to have that all happen? Can you prove that this will or will not happen? Or is this another unprovable claim? YES, IT IS.

Rather than some kind of deism it's clear that there is some kind of relational aspect as you have billions of humans who claim to experience him, you can see the impact of this on the world and throughout history. But if you're just going to ignore all of this then it's not rational, if that's what you want to insist.

Wait.

billions of humans who claim

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billions of humans who claim

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billions of humans who claim

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claim

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claim

Thank you, good sir, for admitting that you are in fact an irrational tool who thinks something is rational because of a

claim.

If six billion people believed 2 + 2 = 4, it still wouldn't make it true. The crux of your argument and the foundation of it is a pillar of sand. You are the one who is irrational, sir. You argue that because billions of people think it's true, therefore it must be, and that everything is as it is because it was created, because everything must have a creator. That's the logic you're REALLY going for, here?

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Ad infinitum.

Where is this so-called rationality you claim to be possessing, eh? Keep trying to square the circle, amigo, one day you might just realize that in order to fit the square (your reality) in the circle (actual reality), you have to change its shape into a circle. And on that day, you, too, will become an atheist.