(October 9, 2013 at 5:07 pm)Brian37 Wrote: The entire book is a comic book. If you accept Genesis as not literal, then why would claims of "POOFDADY" sperm knocking up what would be a 9-14 girl(and also outside her marriage), be more credible?
Genesis is still true in general theme it just isn't literally true. It depicts God as creator of the universe and the human condition for what it is. The virgin birth? I don't know but again I think the story of Nativity makes use of archetypes and themes that are meant to have meaning. We kind of know it won't be word for word literal history the dates don't really match up. But it's possible Jesus was immaculately conceived, it doesn't matter if he wasn't it's not as vital a thing as the resurrection would be. If that didn't happen it doesn't mean God doesn't exist though Christianity would be a misrepresentation of God. I think the Christian God is the best of the alternatives but someones going to be right someone will be mistaken. Atheists are mistaken right off the bat they're not even at first base.
Quote:When you know humans don't survive rigor mortis it is really hard to swallow the death story as well.
It wasn't the same old body as before he was raised in glory as we ourselves will be of course. And then you'll stand in judgement before the Lord. Though if you're a repentant Christian you're already past that stage, you already have the club card.
Quote:It's called cherry picking. That is how you cling to that comic book and pretend it is still relevant.
Even some of the very first/early and most renowned Christian scholars and Saints had a similar understanding of scripture, it's even in the scripture itself. This isn't a modern reinvention in response to modern criticism it goes all the way back.
Quote:Now, unless you have scientific evidence that either the birth story or death story are even physically possible, just like you rightfully reject Genesis, maybe YOU need to scrap the entire book as being fact.
Don't worry about the birth narrative if you don't want to believe that but if you want a good objective debate on the historicity of the resurrection from both sides here's a good book to read.
If you want an alternative view on the Virgin birth, you don't have to be dogmatic about these details.
Quote:Truth hurts sometimes, but you will feel lots better not having to defend such claptrap.
I'd believe in God in some shape or form anyway but Christianity you have to admit would seem to have the most going for it and the best God, this is the only one who will give you grace and he loves everyone including yourself. The Islamic God would hate you something proper for denying his existence like this.
Come all ye faithful joyful and triumphant.